And now a French General election too (2024)
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ska invita
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Depends who it is instead. I don't follow closely but I'm not sure Melenchon is necessarily the best for it. Vaguely remember having a couple of doubts about him and also thinking he has a big ego. Repeat: I don't follow closely enough.
ska invita
back on the other side
Unbelievable
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Just spoke to a French friend who's been following it on French radio. Says the Greens and Socialists will try to block Melenchon despite his party being more popular than either of them.
I like him. He's mouthy and confrontational, very unlike eg Corbyn, but he has good instincts.
Annoyingly, the fallout with the Greens and Socialists isn't over domestic policy but rather over Gaza and Hamas. In France, the PM does not have control over foreign policy or defence anyway.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Search for the perfect Left candidate goes on then
Hotel Chocolate
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I have been following the election results on Le Monde and its neck and neck between all three groups at the moment. - around 125 MPs elected each group.
The RN Has already increased its number of MPs from 89 to 130. But they definitely won't get a majority and they're also probably won't end up the largest party either.
123 results to go.
I think RN are going to get about 150. : o/
I don't know what system they are using to count their votes in France but it's certainly a lot faster than our system, I suppose it does help that there's only two candidates for most of the constituencies.
289 Mps for a majority.
The RN Has already increased its number of MPs from 89 to 130. But they definitely won't get a majority and they're also probably won't end up the largest party either.
123 results to go.
I think RN are going to get about 150. : o/
I don't know what system they are using to count their votes in France but it's certainly a lot faster than our system, I suppose it does help that there's only two candidates for most of the constituencies.
289 Mps for a majority.
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Plumdaff
joy in people
We watched ten or so minutes of their rolling coverage, which consisted of a correspondent trying, and failing, to find someone at the Melenchon rally who did not support him, and saying 'far left' ominously as much as possible.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Melenchon would do me just fine. Things could get messy. I don't know the exact split within the NPF, but LFI are easily the biggest group.
Next PM could be this guy, Manuel Bompard. Melenchon ally who's been representing NPF at various debates recently.
Next PM could be this guy, Manuel Bompard. Melenchon ally who's been representing NPF at various debates recently.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Great shot
Also the National Rally doesn't always wear suits, anti fascists out on the prowl
Also the National Rally doesn't always wear suits, anti fascists out on the prowl
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Like they did to Corbyn in 2019.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I dunno about that. If the result really is NPF biggest faction with centrist twats second, RN third, that's about as good a result as we could have hoped for when Macron called the election. Got to take the wins when they come, no? That the immediate future will be messy and difficult is a given, of course.
ska invita
back on the other side
Maybe I'm being idealistic but it would be nice if left movements weren't reliant on "big" single individuals. Any one figure should be easily replaced, in principle.
The39thStep
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I think any political organisation should have properly planned succession and development of cadre.
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
It's nice that whoever made this graph has included a key indicating which colours Reconquest and LO/NPA would be if they were on it, which they don't appear to be.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Jesus, I've had the English France 24 YouTube channel on in the background and its just full of the worst right wing pundits . Apparently far right governments Italy etc haven't been that bad, some bloke think that the French two round system isn't democratic as NR had the lead in the first round , others are questioning whether NR are indeed far right, and one woman informed us that this result of the 'extreme left' shames France .
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Excellent.
Be ashamed. Be so very ashamed.
It's revealing, though, isn't it? There are many in the so-called centre who would rather see fascism than socialism. Good for them to out themselves.
ska invita
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Looked it up "Since 2008 the channel has been wholly owned by the French government"
Hotel Chocolate
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The left and macron's group with added independent leftists and centrists have already achieved a majority.
90 seats to go.
90 seats to go.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I've had to turn it off, it made some of the worst posters on here seem vaguely bearable
Hotel Chocolate
Well-Known Member
The Left NFP and Macron's centralists have a majority now.
The RN will probably get about 25% of the seats.
The RN will probably get about 25% of the seats.
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RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Turned the radio when I got up this mornng and overheard Andrew Neill (at least I think it was him, I was more interested in coffee at that stage) saying the same-NR shouldn't be viewed as far right.
imposs1904
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Nicked from Twixxer/
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The UK could have France's system of two rounds. Could easily be introduced with the existing system. If nobody wins 50% in the first round, you have a run-off. Two-way or three-way depending on how close the others are. If more than 50% of the people in any given constituency loathe the first-place candidate, they would be given the opportunity to show it.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
There’s some fabulous videos doing the round on Twitter of various right wingers enthusiastically counting down to the exit poll results and then… looking rather stunned
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
You definitely sound tench - maybe you should get a relaxing macharge
Hotel Chocolate
Well-Known Member
Labour have won bigger than the left group in France. I don't think they'll be swapping first-pass-the-post for the French system, Labour just obtained 63% of the seats under the present system.
Hotel Chocolate
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I don't know what this election achieved. This was the composition of the parliament before the election as far as I know from Wikipedia:
As far as I can tell all Macron has achieved is to reduce his own party's number of seats down by quite a bit and increase the number of National Rally seats from 89 to about 143. (60% increase).
I think Melechon number of MPs has gone down to be replaced by the Socialist Party.
As far as I can tell all Macron has achieved is to reduce his own party's number of seats down by quite a bit and increase the number of National Rally seats from 89 to about 143. (60% increase).
I think Melechon number of MPs has gone down to be replaced by the Socialist Party.
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