And now a French General election too (2024)

[ska invita]

The centrists are toxic and any alliance with them merely guarantees a bigger FN vote next time, a loss of insurgency and a pincer movement by capital and its political representatives to dilute any serious programme.

Given the FN position the left should form a government and call people onto the streets if the centrists refuse to support their programme and usher in new elections.

Ah interesting, I think you read the situation as that the left can form a government without the need for any wider coalition. I hadn't considered that possible

 

[DotCommunist]

good headline writing, bad times.

 

[Serge Forward]

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good headline writing, bad times.

Very clever that. Il Manifesto has some decent stuff in it. The Italian is a bit hard for me but they also have English pages.

 

[Chz]

...the RN doesn't really have a project for this country, beyond taking power. They find and fuel any petty grievance in social media and polls, and add it to their list of reforms.

People complain that wind turbines are an eyesore and make too much noise? The RN promises to stop any wind power project and dismantle existing fields. People complain that EVs are too expensive and will be mandatory in the EU in 2035? No more EV for the RN. People complain about kids glued to their phone, which is destroying the fabric of our civilization? The RN will save us all by forbidding kids to use phones at school.

Regarding education more specifically, the RN wants more authority in schools, different kinds of collèges (from 11 years old to 14 years old) for kids depending on their abilities ( the equivalent of trade schools is only available for kids older than 14 currently), uniforms in schools, no phone in school, and closed schools (prisons) for disruptive (foreign looking) kids.

 

[Dogsauce]

Far right are being supported on social media by a coordinated fake news campaign, some of which links back to Russia. They’re using AI to generate content but often leaving the prompts in, which are a bit of a giveaway.

One example detailed here:

Thread by @jsrailton on Thread Reader App

@jsrailton: 2.6 million people have been shown this deepfake. It cites an AI-written disinformation site. Don't believe me? Well. operators of this fake French news site often forgot to delete the prompts. Perhaps t...…

threadreaderapp.com

I wonder if Farage is getting similar support?

 

[Oriole]

Probably more use if you have a grasp of French.

Some info about the RN candidates with a track record when you click the coloured constituencies.

The areas with the ochre border show candidates who were elected in the first round

La Carte de la Honte

125 preuves que le RN est toujours...

cartedelahonte.github.io

 

[Oriole]

By the way when I said some of them had a track record I wasn't kidding,

Meet the Mayenne candidate who has a criminal record for taking a mayoral civil servant hostage an demanding to talk to the prefet (with the assistance of a shotgun - which was reportedly discharged accidentally - and of her husband who played lookout) because she was upset her business was failing.

Mayenne. Les casseroles d'Annie Bell, candidate du RN en Mayenne : elle avait commis une prise d'otage armée en 1995

Le 5 janvier 1995, Annie-Claire Jaccoud Bell avait commis une prise d'otage armée. Elle est aujourd'hui candidate RN de la 3e circonscription de la Mayenne et est opposée à Yannick Favennec (Horizons) au second tour des législatives.

www.lecourrierdelamayenne.fr

 

[gentlegreen]

Bardella in some sort of private convoy en route to Paris

 

[gentlegreen]

From 18:30

 

[gentlegreen]

I wonder what the French version is of a Portillo moment ...

 

[Silas Loom]

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[PR1Berske]

 

[gentlegreen]

Phew.

 

[Bingoman]

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And everyone said Marie le pen would be the French PM how wrong

 

[gentlegreen]

And everyone said Marie le pen would be the French PM how wrong

It was going to be her toyboy Bardella.
She wants the top job.

 

[Bingoman]

It was going to be her toyboy

I doubt it RN on the exit poll is 3rd

 

[Idris2002]

Allez, allez! Melenchon and on and on

 

[bemused]

Well, that's taken a shit on right-wing loons.

 

[krtek a houby]

The danger has abated... for now.

 

[pbsmooth]

Wow! Great news - though the projections seem to have some variance so tbc.

 

[Pickman's model]

The danger has abated... for now.

not so much, if every fucking time it takes the shock of the first vote to get people out for the second. and the rn have a voice in local government.

 

[Pickman's model]

Wow! Great news - though the projections seem to have some variance so tbc.

yeh that's because they're projections and not the actual results.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Ok so what chance Macron's lot are squeezed and NUPES win a majority? Prime Minister Melenchon? It's a big ask, but if Ensemble collapse...

My initial hopes haven't quite come about. But Prime Minister Melenchon (albeit an unstable, minority PM) has now become the bookies' favourite outcome.

The president has the power and the duty to call the NFP to govern.

 

[Idris2002]

 

[Cloo]

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I have to wonder if UK election might have pushed some apathetic/undecided voters to go Left, even if for no other reason than that they didn't want to look worse than les fucking rosbif

 

[PR1Berske]

I have to wonder if UK election might have pushed some apathetic/undecided voters to go Left, even if for no other reason than that they didn't want to look worse than les fucking rosbif

Doing it here would be impossible.

 

[Lotte]

Thierry Henry lip twitch.gif

 

[The39thStep]

The FT , and the Telegraph, pin point the key issue in France

Wealthy French make post-election contingency plans

‘The question we get asked most frequently is if money is safe in France’

www.ft.com

 

[The39thStep]

Oh dear

 

[littlebabyjesus]

appears I may be out of date. Seems NPF itself may block melenchon. Wankers.