Who will win the 2024 US election?
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Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I've been working on a project with a guy from Nebraska. I didn't realise until yesterday that Nebraska has voted Republican for the past 25 years. I called Trump a useless tangerine-faced cunt to the guy in Nebraska, but it turns out he's a Trump fanboy and he got a bit upset about it... So I'm no longer working on a project with a guy from Nebraska.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
You're better off not working with snowflakes like that.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
What's funny is he never stopped going on about snowflakes and how people get offended too easily.
Trump supporters are a weird bunch.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
Could you outline what is specifically bourgeois about localised forms of democracy? What is the proletarian outlook?
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
There's American posters here. And some of us have family there.
Quit the generalising.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Give it a rest, Captain Poface
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Didn't understand the whole snowflake thing. Just seemed like projection. Duh yeh I know always is.
White, fragile and prone to breaking down under the slightest pressure.
Rompipalle
“Mad as hell & I’m not going to take this anymore”
For "Palace", read "White House".
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
I always stuck to the rule of never discussing my political or religious views at work.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
i don’t know how that’s possible
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
It is dead easy. You don't comment.
If I had, I'd have been frozen out 20 years ago.
People believe Trump’s lies…
www.theguardian.com
I spent hours trying to persuade US voters to choose Harris not Trump. I know why she lost | Oliver Hall
As a phone bank volunteer, I hoped to counter the Republican attacks and half-truths, but people really believed them, says journalist and podcaster Oliver Hall
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
People believe Trump’s lies…
I spent hours trying to persuade US voters to choose Harris not Trump. I know why she lost | Oliver Hall
As a phone bank volunteer, I hoped to counter the Republican attacks and half-truths, but people really believed them, says journalist and podcaster Oliver Hall
No shit Sherlock.
This is why Trump is different, this is why Trump is more dangerous in the era of internet spread false information. He has virtually personally created a cultural hegemony of his own, in his own interests, to get himself elected twice. 'Fake news' was a joke when we first heard it. It's not so funny now. It was a deliberate strategy, creating alternative simple realities and being able to spread them across via the net.
When Musk, who recently appeared in Trump's official winning family photo which should tell you a lot, bought and fucked up Twitter, we all laughed. But as I heard someone else say the other day, it's the best $44billion Musk ever spent. It bought him a platform. It's worked. Trump has been helped along the way.
Alternative facts are here to stay.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Maybe it’s just my job, but I don’t see how it’s possible to avoid talking about anything with anyone without sharing your world view
Mostly I do it by avoiding talking to anyone
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
We share a job (sort of, I think...) and a neurotype, and I've often wondered how people do it too.
It is possible, I know colleagues, friends, etc who can, but me... not for very long, at least.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Who is going to win? Trump, definitely Trump. 
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Some interesting points in there, but I'm probably biased as it mostly confirms what I suspected.People believe Trump’s lies…
I spent hours trying to persuade US voters to choose Harris not Trump. I know why she lost | Oliver Hall
As a phone bank volunteer, I hoped to counter the Republican attacks and half-truths, but people really believed them, says journalist and podcaster Oliver Hall
This bit matches with some other bits I've heard and how confused people are about the economy
"Often, they would also tell me that everyone they knew was doing badly, even if they were just fine themselves."
Basically most people when asked said they were fine but most also said the economy was doing very badly. Part of the explanation for this seems to be that people see prices going up without taking into account wage growth. So part of the reason for the mismatch is that they are still doing fine because they are earning more, but what they see is the jump in prices. Of course that's not even and lots get left behind.
Another factor is the number of people who don't understand inflation and think that inflation coming down means prices will drop and when they don't they don't trust that the economy is getting better.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The people have spoken....
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
With nearly all the votes in...turnout down 2.5%
Trump up about 400,000 votes.
Harris down 10 million votes. That's a bit careless.
2020 was the anomaly. Not 2016. Not 2024.
Trump up about 400,000 votes.
Harris down 10 million votes. That's a bit careless.
2020 was the anomaly. Not 2016. Not 2024.
story
Changing the facts
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
It proves Biden got lucky fighting an incumbent in times of Covid.
It proves the Democrats have done diddly squat to figure out the economic concerns and frustrations of the American working class who feel abandoned by traditional politics and institutions.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
TBF the US electorate have been voting for change candidates since at least 2008, and you can make a good argument that the few things both sides agree on in this apparently polarized society is that the top of society are using their power to gorge themselves at everyone elses expense, and that for most people things are getting worse with no improvement likely or really possible as things are.
What should worry the top of the Democrats is that Trump recognized this twice; if he actually delivers on it then they won't win another Presidential election for a long time.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Who is going to win? Trump, definitely Trump.
Now you tell us! You couldn't have told us sooner?
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I think it takes practice. I worked in an environment for years where they played Rush Limbaugh in the shop. I'd be fighting all day if I spent time refuting all the nonsense.
I'm a bit luckier now. Most of the people I work with were devastated on Wednesday. I spent some time consoling and encouraging them, even though I don't really feel it myself right now. This was one of the rare times I spoke to anyone at work about my politics. There's other areas where I share that, just not generally at work.
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