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AKA ‘the Rogan effect’.
AKA ‘the Rogan effect’.
"Officially" is the important word in the orginal question, to which I was responding. AP is not an official body.‘It is a little analog’: how the Associated Press calls election winners in the US
AP’s David Scott talks about how the newsroom predicts who won, the ‘red mirage’ and one county’s whiteboardwww.theguardian.com
'As far as you know' isn't very far, is it.
I'd like to see some error bars on those plots, and there are some questions there (how is the 'median' voter being defined?) but an interesting piecesome really interesting stats in this suggesting a significant shift to the left "amongst democrats" (see article for details) whilst also collapsing as the party of the WC
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Some real positives aside from that IMO in regards the possibility to move left but Im too lazy to post comment properly at the mo
A left without the working class . Ah well , so it goes.some really interesting stats in this suggesting a significant shift to the left "amongst democrats" (see article for details) whilst also collapsing as the party of the WC
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Trump broke the Democrats’ thermostat
The American left was sent spinning in 2016 and is yet to recalibratewww.ft.com
Some real positives aside from that IMO in regards the possibility to move left but Im too lazy to post comment properly at the mo
that's one way of looking at it... or, as the article says, the shift is out of line with where most people are. and that isn't necessarily good. certainly not good if you want to win an election.some really interesting stats in this suggesting a significant shift to the left "amongst democrats" (see article for details) whilst also collapsing as the party of the WC
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Trump broke the Democrats’ thermostat
The American left was sent spinning in 2016 and is yet to recalibratewww.ft.com
Some real positives aside from that IMO in regards the possibility to move left but Im too lazy to post comment properly at the mo
Even more glaring now in light of the ceasefire.Before firmly demonstrating that Gaza cost Democrats the election, it’s important to keep a handful of caveats in mind. Even if October 7 and the resulting genocide had never happened, it’s fair to assume some number of those non-voters still would not have voted, and would have cited a different top reason for not voting. Citing a top reason for not voting is far different than it being the only reason not to vote.
And because the turnout drop off was smaller in swing states, Gaza may not have been decisive on its own. Whenever surveys confirm views we already hold, or tell us things we want to be true, it’s worth approaching their findings with increased skepticism. Still, even the most biased poll can only manufacture so much of a response. Even if the true numbers aren’t as stark as this survey found, it points in a clear direction: Biden’s ruthless support for Israel’s genocide, and the refusal of Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris to break with him, hurt her among voters who stayed home.
A previous survey, taken during the election by YouGov and also sponsored by Institute for Middle East Understanding Policy Project, found strong evidence that Harris would be significantly boosted by breaking with Biden on Gaza and applying real pressure on Israel. But Harris chose not to do so.
Now that the scale of Democrat's role in prolonging the genocide is beginning to publicly unfold it makes it even more unsettling that some posters on here argued that those concerned about the genocide Americans should still have voted for Harris.Was just looking for this thread to post that but see you've beat me to it. Actual data is here:
IMEU Policy Project Post-Election Polling Shows Gaza Cost Harris Votes — IMEU Policy Project
www.imeupolicyproject.org
Think that dropsitenews article makes quite a cock-up by describing it as a poll of non-voters when actually it was a poll of Biden 2020 voters who voted for someone other than Harris, but this read like good levelheaded analysis to me:
Even more glaring now in light of the ceasefire.