Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[emanymton]

how swiftly afghanistan and the rather greater nato presence there is forgotten. not to mention kosovo. of course the situation in ukraine is comparable - whether or not only a tiny minority of people who opposed iraq believe it.

Remind me how many air strikes Nato has launched against Ukraine?

Sorry but you have totally lost it on this.

I can respect a total no war position stating we should not be sending weapons at all.

I disagree, with it but I understand and respect it.

But stuff like this is just blatantly not true and makes you look daft, which you aren't.

 

[Elpenor]

As the polls open for three days of voting, in a devastating blow to those UK constituencies that like to compete to be the first to return a result on election night, it seems the results are in already...

• Putin will get 82% of the votes;
• Kharitonov (Communist Party of the Russian Federation) - 6%;
• Davankov (New People party) - 6%;
• Slutsky (LDPR) - 5%.

71% of Russians who are eligible to vote, will cast their votes. Only 1% of voters will spoil the ballots.


Well done everyone.

Sunderland civic pride has taken a big hit, having lost their election speed record

 

[kabbes]

It’s commonplace for authoritarian regimes to use elections as a way of legitimising themselves. There are all kinds of ways to ensure that an election returns the result the regime needs, ranging from outright vote rigging to elimination of the opposition to preventing non-governmental communications to, well, you name it really. The mere existence of an election therefore tells you nothing, really, about the democratic status of the place that the election is happening.

 

[ID47]

It's his site, he can do what he likes with it.

There's a MOD team, and editor is, in truth pretty good about separating his personal interactions from modding decisions (in comparison to what I'd be like, for example...).

There's always beef, and not everyone gets it right all the time, and there's a feedback forum if you aren't happy with decisions that you see.

Once again please accept my grovelling apologies, I genuinely had no idea that 'editor' actually owned this site. Owner, moderator and poster, that's some conflict of interest.

You seem very interested in military matters, NATO in particular, how come?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

You seem very interested in military matters, NATO in particular, how come?

He's big in to Airsoft.

 

[existentialist]

Once again please accept my grovelling apologies, I genuinely had no idea that 'editor' actually owned this site. Owner, moderator and poster, that's some conflict of interest.

You seem very interested in military matters, NATO in particular, how come?

Have you heard the term "Walt"? kebabking is what walts want to be when they grow up. The sort of bloke who wears rectangular sunglasses.

 

[kabbes]

I reckon that in a move contrary to all expectation, IDnumbers is actually editor’s sock puppet. He’s playing a deep game of 47-d chess and none of us can see the endgame.

 

[The39thStep]

BBC

Looks like it's the same rag-tag bunch of fashy Russian nationalists that 'invaded' Russia last May, with a handful of Siberian seperatists. Russians say they killed 234 and blew up 'several' tanks and its all over now.

These are the ‘freedom fighters ‘ who want a white Russia . Great bunch of fellas .

 

[tim]

You seem very interested in military matters, NATO in particular, how come?

He is MOD, but he isn't a mod.

 

[TopCat]

These are the ‘freedom fighters ‘ who want a white Russia . Great bunch of fellas .

Well hopefully they are all dead by now.

 

[Pickman's model]

Remind me how many air strikes Nato has launched against Ukraine?

Sorry but you have totally lost it on this.

I can respect a total no war position stating we should not be sending weapons at all.

I disagree, with it but I understand and respect it.

But stuff like this is just blatantly not true and makes you look daft, which you aren't.

It's no wonder you consider daft what you can't understand.

 

[Dystopiary]

Once again please accept my grovelling apologies, I genuinely had no idea that 'editor' actually owned this site. Owner, moderator and poster, that's some conflict of interest.

Perhaps you also "had no idea" there was a feedback forum.
And there's always Citizens Advice.
Though the Good Law Project might be interested in this serious breach of contract.

 

[discokermit]

Once again please accept my grovelling apologies, I genuinely had no idea that 'editor' actually owned this site. Owner, moderator and poster, that's some conflict of interest.

You seem very interested in military matters, NATO in particular, how come?

he gets paid by them.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Perhaps you also "had no idea" there was a feedback forum.
And there's always Citizens Advice.
Though the Good Law Project might be interested in this serious breach of contract.

TBF, they are too new and haven't hit the required number of posts to view that section of urban.

 

[two sheds]

Once again please accept my grovelling apologies, I genuinely had no idea that 'editor' actually owned this site. Owner, moderator and poster, that's some conflict of interest.

Yes this is confirmed because editor's banned all the posters who've disagreed with him on the thread. Ah no he hasn't.

 

[discokermit]

Yes this is confirmed because editor's banned all the posters who've disagreed with him on the thread. Ah no he hasn't.

just me.

 

[kebabking]

just me.

And yet...?

 

[two sheds]

"She turned me into a newt "
"I got better"

 

[Dystopiary]

TBF, they are too new and haven't hit the required number of posts to view that section of urban.

Don't think I've been here long enough to do the "they're not new!" thing, but me non-spidey senses are tingling...

 

[discokermit]

And yet...?

a lot of and yets about. i get banned and yet i am still posting. you train ukrainian troops to nato standard and yet they still get slaughtered.

 

[Pickman's model]

ah the cut and thrust of debate on urban

 

[The39thStep]

ah the cut and thrust of debate on urban

Promising for the Urban meet up.

 

[discokermit]

Promising for the Urban meet up.

im a lover, not a fighter.

 

[ID47]

a lot of and yets about. i get banned and yet i am still posting. you train ukrainian troops to nato standard and yet they still get slaughtered.

Not looking good even on this pro Ukrainian site. Maybe for once in his life the Pope was right on this one.

 

[Yossarian]

Meanwhile, in Ukraine, the Russian invaders killed at least 14 people Friday by firing a missile at houses and firing a second missile to kill rescuers

Russian missiles kill at least 14 people in the latest strike on southern Ukraine's Odesa

A Russian missile strike on Odesa in southern Ukraine has killed at least 14 people and injured 46 others, local officials said

abcnews.go.com

 

[Artaxerxes]

Meanwhile, in Ukraine, the Russian invaders killed at least 14 people Friday by firing a missile at houses and firing a second missile to kill rescuers

Russian missiles kill at least 14 people in the latest strike on southern Ukraine's Odesa

A Russian missile strike on Odesa in southern Ukraine has killed at least 14 people and injured 46 others, local officials said

abcnews.go.com

Must have been NATOs fault

 

[Yossarian]

In the occupied territories, Russia has made it very difficult for Ukrainians to get by without Russian passports - but those who receive one risk getting drafted

A Russian passport is needed to prove property ownership and keep access to health care and retirement income. Refusal can result in losing custody of children, jail – or worse. A new Russian law stipulates that anyone in the occupied territories who does not have a Russian passport by July 1 is subject to imprisonment as a “foreign citizen."
Under international law dating to 1907, it is forbidden to force people “to swear allegiance to the hostile Power.” But when Ukrainians apply for a Russian passport, they must submit biometric data and cell phone information and swear an oath of loyalty.

Takeaways into AP investigation into Russian system to force its passports on occupied Ukraine

Russia has successfully imposed its passports on nearly the entire population of occupied Ukraine by making it impossible to survive without them, coercing hundreds of thousands of people into citizenship.

apnews.com

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Not looking good even on this pro Ukrainian site. Maybe for once in his life the Pope was right on this one.

The Pope is never right. Not even by accident.

 

[emanymton]

It's no wonder you consider daft what you can't understand.

Explain it then?

How are Nato Actions in Ukrain the smar as Natio Actions in Afghanistan?

 

[Pickman's model]

Explain it then?

How are Nato Actions in Ukrain the smar as Natio Actions in Afghanistan?

i didn't say they were the same. you are perhaps confused between things being comparable and things being equivalent. and not, i suspect, for the first time.