Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[not-bono-ever]

He had a family and friends remember

 

[Artaxerxes]

He had a family and friends remember

When will Zelensky apologise for their loss?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

He had a family and friends remember

I doubt their prognosis is great either.

 

[planetgeli]

He had a family and friends remember

Friends in low places though.

 

[WouldBe]

Whatever happened to them?

Sucked into a jet engine by the sounds of things.

 

[Raheem]

Sucked into a jet engine by the sounds of things.

Would explain the hair.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Good riddance to him if he's dead - shame about any innocent people on the plane though.

But if it's in relation to your running spat with @farmerbarleymow - I think he wins.

cupid_stunt doesn't seem to grasp that I'm always right and he's always wrong.

 

[The39thStep]

They were shit (A Flock of Seagulls). Saw them supporting my brother's band eons ago at the Moonlight, West Hampstead. Dire.

I am sure I saw Joy Division there

 

[Dogsauce]

And so it begins. Bloody geese.

Surely ‘bio engineered geese’?

 

[JimW]

He had a family and friends remember

Coercive controlees and minions.

 

[A380]

I am sure I saw Joy Division there

‘ Being on a plane hit by a missile will tear us apart’…

 

[farmerbarleymow]

 

[kabbes]

I was at the theatre at the weekend to see patriots - the boris beresovsky play….. odd things happened in that when Putin got the arse

I saw that a few weeks ago (good, wasn’t it?). The line that stays with me is when Putin is advised “keep your friends close but your enemies closer” and his response is “why would I keep my enemies close when I can just destroy them?”

Maybe Prigozhin should have gone to see the play too.

 

[tony.c]

I am hoping it was a flock seagulls, that would be a double win for me!

If you're referring to the death of many seagulls, your point may stand.

"Kamikaze seagulls bring down one of the world's most contemptible people"

Evil killer monsters kill evil killer monsters.

 

[existentialist]

I saw that a few weeks ago (good, wasn’t it?). The line that stays with me is when Putin is advised “keep your friends close but your enemies closer” and his response is “why would I keep my enemies close when I can just destroy them?”

Maybe Prigozhin should have gone to see the play too.

I mean, nothing bad ever happens to people going to see plays...

 

[DaveCinzano]

I mean, nothing bad ever happens to people going to see plays...

Especially in Moscow

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Meanwhile, whilst all eyes are on a bunch of Nazis falling from the sky it seems Ukrainian troops have landed in Crimea, had a few skirmishes, beaten what opponents they have met and are bedding in. Failed counter offensive and that…

 

[Ming]

Meanwhile, whilst all eyes are on a bunch of Nazis falling from the sky it seems Ukrainian troops have landed in Crimea, had a few skirmishes, beaten what opponents they have met and are bedding in. Failed counter offensive and that…

Really??

 

[teqniq]

it appears the Ukranians have pulled off a bit of a mission here. A number of video clips in the replies:



Screenshot for ppl with no access or disinclination for Twitter:

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

“A set of measures is underway, this is not a one-day story, but a long-term operation,”

 

[Pickman's model]

I mean, nothing bad ever happens to people going to see plays...

Reportedly what Abraham Lincoln said to his wife as they entered ford's theater

 

[dilute micro]

Ukraine high command are doing this so well given what cards they have. They're certainly trying to force Russia to move to support Crimea, but it's also a psychological play. People in Crimea are already paranoid, and it has to have an effect on the regular Russian soldier anywhere in Ukraine.

 

[ska invita]

Bleak assessment of the war on Novara - skip past all the Prigozhin speculation sideshow to 13.40


...includes quotes from this article in The Economist which explores some of the negativity and disillusionment within Ukraine itself

https://archive.ph/FynNu

 

[jeff_leigh]

Ukraine high command are doing this so well given what cards they have. They're certainly trying to force Russia to move to support Crimea, but it's also a psychological play. People in Crimea are already paranoid, and it has to have an effect on the regular Russian soldier anywhere in Ukraine.

Regular Russian Soldiers in Ukraine are waiting behind their defence lines for the Ukrainians to start their Counter Offensive

 

[dilute micro]

Regular Russian Soldiers in Ukraine are waiting behind their defence lines for the Ukrainians to start their Counter Offensive

Not true.

 

[TopCat]

Not sure that's actually been discussed anywhere though has it? The only hint of it I have seen was the suggestion repair teams could move close to the border (in Poland?) to fix damaged tanks etc.

The implications of it are obvious though aren't they; an increased risk of an escalation between Russia and NATO, even if by accident.

It’s going to be a topic in the news before too long. If the Ukrainians don’t have the manpower, are stalled, what now? So much has been invested, both politically and financially that realising no real progress will be made without more troops will beg the question.

 

[two sheds]

Shame the Ukrainians can't get behind the Russian lines, get them to retreat across the mine fields. They might start clearing them then.

 

[StoneRoad]

ISW's map has had another tweak - they've added another blue tone to indicate land liberated in the past 24hrs.
Makes scanning the long front line a tad easier.

Using that aid, yesterday {and the day before} the Ukrainians have made some advances in the Robotyne / Verbove area, producing quite a decent salient.

Counting up the light blue patches of liberated territory, I made that advances - some small, some much bigger - have been in over 30 areas on a very long front line.

The width / depth of the minefields - and concentration of mines in them - must be making life very difficult for the sappers.

Very late last night a friend made the slightly flippant suggestion that the sappers should fill well-labelled (Achtung minen) dumpy bags with the removed mines and use choppers to dump them back over the border. Being very mean, I was wondering if you could actually do that, but with added booby traps ? Maybe float them into the piers of the Kerch Bridge ?

 

[dilute micro]

Ukraine is apparently going to make a push from Robotyne, which they've just taken, towards Tokmak and then Melitopol. Russia threw a lot of special forces at Robotyne and still lost.

 

[StoneRoad]

Ukraine is apparently going to make a push from Robotyne, which they've just taken, towards Tokmak and then Melitopol. Russia threw a lot of special forces at Robotyne and still lost.

At least part of their plans ...
Note that this area is often referred to as the "Berydansk direction" in the daily report. There's certainly a decent salient towards Verbove after the advances of past few days.

The other medium term aim will be to sever or seriously disrupt the "land bridge" to/from Crimea.
Plus keep smacking the Chondar / Heniseck / Arabat Spit bridges, as well as the Armyansk area. {as per the Antonisky bridge last year}