Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[strung out]

Ciu bono? Who benefits?

What does Ukraine have to benefit from throwing a firework at the Kremlin in the middle of the night?

vs

Big up the threat/increased mobilisation/increased military action etc. (I don't believe for a minute Putin is bothered about getting the proles onside - 'we are under attack' is a far more basic or visceral message).

Ukraine gets to demonstrate their long range drone capability and potentially pull air defenses away from other areas of Russian infrastructure that could be hit to assist a Ukrainian counter-offensive

vs

Making you look like a completely weak/inept force when your capital comes under attack 400+ days into your three day special military operation

I don't know which it is, but there are plenty of reasons to believe it could be Ukraine rather than a false flag that makes Russia look shit. It's not like Putin needed a false flag as an excuse to launch this war in the first place.

 

[maomao]

Also, given that it's widely believed that Putin blew up tower blocks and killed his own citizens in a previous false flag this comes across as a bit half-hearted. I reckon it was Ukraine but none of us know or probably ever will.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Seems it was Ukraine all along...

Spoiler: DRONE

 

[The39thStep]

Pm me once we get an answer

Narrowed it down to 2 maybe 3 .

 

[spitfire]

Narrowed it down to 2 maybe 3 .

Can’t be talking about me, I was definitely in the SAS.

There is no boat house in Hereford.

See?

 

[kebabking]

Can’t be talking about me, I was definitely in the SAS.

There is no boat house in Hereford.

See?

If it helps I both passed through Hereford on the train this morning, and drove through it this afternoon.

I did not see the boathouse.

 

[WouldBe]

I did not see the boathouse.

Not heard of camouflage in the army?

 

[spitfire]

If it helps I both passed through Hereford on the train this morning, and drove through it this afternoon.

I did not see the boathouse.

Even if there was one it would be so well camouflaged you’d never see it. We all went to Camouflage College and are experts you see.

 

[spitfire]

Not heard of camouflage in the army?

He has to say that. Official Secrets Act means the first rule of Camo Club is…

 

[Nylock]

If it helps I both passed through Hereford on the train this morning, and drove through it this afternoon.

I did not see the boathouse.

With the typical state of Hereford traffic, drive through is at best an optimistic term...

 

[JimW]

What's the colour of the tea kiosk at Edgar Street?

 

[kebabking]

With the typical state of Hereford traffic, drive through is at best an optimistic term...

Well, yes, there is that. I crawled through from the Dirty Ron's at Belmont to the B&W roundabout.

Got to have a nice letch through the window at Trekkit though, so it wasn't a complete waste of time.

 

[spitfire]

What's the colour of the tea kiosk at Edgar Street?

If I told you that…

 

[The39thStep]

Can’t be talking about me, I was definitely in the SAS.

There is no boat house in Hereford.

See?

No not you , you are safe . I think Russ is definitely wrong about one of them and a little unfair on another .

 

[spitfire]

No not you , you are safe . I think Russ is definitely wrong about one of them and a little unfair on another .

Russ likes throwing around insults. He’s still never fully explained his shitty comments about potatoes and Irish people to me and Ax^ so I’d pay little heed to his utterances if they were directed at me anyway.

 

[Ax^]

tbf if its a break bad reference i got bored at the end of second season and have never finished it

but can remark the Russ like to make remarks and never explain himself

the gobshite

have a feeling he complains about "woke nonsense " on a daily basis also

 

[spitfire]

tbf if its a break bad reference i got bored at the end of second season and have never finished it

but can remark the Russ like to make remarks and never explain himself

the gobshite

have a feeling he complains about "woke nonsense " on a daily basis also

Is it? I watched the whole series and don’t remember that but I was pissed for half of it (yay stereotypes!).

Anyway context is king and I might take that from a close friend but not from some random on the internet.

So, does anyone know who launched the firecracker at the Kremlin yet?

 

[teqniq]

Russian propaganda doyens having a completely predictable froth about it:

Kremlin Cronies Compare Alleged Drone Attack to 9/11

Never mind that no one was even injured.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Russian propaganda doyens having a completely predictable froth about it:

Kremlin Cronies Compare Alleged Drone Attack to 9/11

Never mind that no one was even injured.

www.thedailybeast.com

They were prattling on earlier that it was a US drone strike on the Kremlin. Clearly they have never googled reaper drone missile launch...

 

[friedaweed]

Can’t be talking about me, I was definitely in the SAS.

There is no boat house in Hereford.

See?

But there is Beefy Boys.

 

[friedaweed]

Looking back at the first vid of the attack and there is clearly two people climbing the dome in the middle of the night. So it's either an amazing coincidence that some staff were up there cleaning bat droppings off the roof, or the attack was known to be coming. I'm leaning towards shenanigans personally.



Eta. There's also wobble on the camera, so it's not some fixed CCTV or webcam view of the Kremlin. Someone was just "lucky" enough to be filming the roof of the Kremlin in the middle of the night

Our house got hit by bigger rockets last November.

 

[Bingoman]

Russian propaganda doyens having a completely predictable froth about it:

Kremlin Cronies Compare Alleged Drone Attack to 9/11

Never mind that no one was even injured.

www.thedailybeast.com

I wonder what they are smoking

 

[friedaweed]

I wonder what they are smoking

Swap seats and ad joke shop £4.99 special hippy dressing up package (Complete with Pork Pie hat and bandana) =

 

[two sheds]

Bloke knocking on Putin's Long Table door with response of "Dave's not here ..."

 

[friedaweed]

Bloke knocking on Putin's Long Table door with response of "Dave's not here ..."

You keep a knocking but you can't come to Amsterdam.

 

[WouldBe]

Our house got hit by bigger rockets last November.

Exactly. When you see the size of explosion and crater when Ukrainian drones drop a mortar in the multiple videos that have been posted then it's clearly a false flag by the ruskies.

 

[friedaweed]

Exactly. When you see the size of explosion and crater when Ukrainian drones drop a mortar in the multiple videos that have been posted then it's clearly a false flag by the ruskies.

Or just some local scalls who've nicked a few fares from the local lifeboat station.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Bloke knocking on Putin's Long Table door with response of "Dave's not here ..."

That's showbusiness

 

[existentialist]

Meanwhile. Humanising, but in an inhuman situation.



You'll need to turn subtitles on. Unless you speak Ukrainian (and I think some of it is in Russian)

 

[friedaweed]

That's showbusiness

I'm sure you could morph those two images for me. I need a new album cover for my dub reggae alb x