Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[two sheds]

‘Stop Deceiving the Population’: Russia’s Mercenary Boss Threatens Full-Blown Mutiny

“What kind of army are we if we couldn’t even manage with itty bitty Ukraine?”

www.thedailybeast.com

“Russia is on the brink of catastrophe,” he said in an interview with a pro-war military blogger on Saturday, openly calling B.S. on the Kremlin’s repeated claims that all is going according to plan in Ukraine.

“We need to stop deceiving the population and telling them that everything is fine,” he said, accusing Russia’s top military brass of deluding themselves about the war or “not giving a damn.”

Prigozhin blamed his foe, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, for a lack of ammunition that he said could cost Russia the war.

When asked if perhaps the military didn’t want to provide weapons to Wagner out of a fear that the mercenary group “might storm the Kremlin” and seize power, Prigozhin conceded that the idea is “interesting” but said he wasn’t focused on staging a coup.

 

[_Russ_]

Has anyone on here actually been trained to drive a tank?

Would you like to?, its quite expensive but I could probably get you a reduction

 

[rubbershoes]

Has anyone on here actually been trained to drive a tank?

I drove one on one if those Red Letter experience days. It was pretty easy but I don't recall anyone firing me at the time

 

[_Russ_]

The bloke who ran it was a “character” all right!

The people who run these things are usually quite strange

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Following yesterday's attack on the oil depot in Sevastopol which resulted in this...









Some people thought that Crimea may not be a good place to live any more...

 

[strung out]

Looking forward to Russia training up 15,000 Scottish terrorists in Siberia.

 

[_Russ_]

Following yesterday's attack on the oil depot in Sevastopol which resulted in this...









Some people thought that Crimea may not be a good place to live any more...

The traffic jam on the Bridge pictures are actually from months ago

Here you go..https://www.facebook.com/VOANews/videos/long-waits-for-crimea-traffic-at-reopened-bridge/618639823381866/

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Following yesterday's attack on the oil depot in Sevastopol which resulted in this...

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Some people thought that Crimea may not be a good place to live any more...

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They haven't blamed it on smoking either.

 

[StoneRoad]

They haven't blamed it on smoking either.

Unlike quite a few other incidents [Moskva, anyone ?] ...
However, the occupying power blamed a drone attack for the conflagration.
As yet, I don't think Kyiv has officially commented.

 

[_Russ_]

Not a fan of relying on twatter for info, but for this story ill make an exception

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Unlike quite a few other incidents [Moskva, anyone ?] ...
However, the occupying power blamed a drone attack for the conflagration.
As yet, I don't think Kyiv has officially commented.

So it's smoking when the Ukrainians do it, but if it's there own incompetence it's drone strike?

 

[_Russ_]

As yet, I don't think Kyiv has officially commented.

They tend not to, they usually just say something like...great its the work of god or somesuch

 

[TopCat]

Not a fan of relying on twatter for info, but for this story ill make an exception

I read it. How was this anarchist convinced by Maiden?

 

[A380]

I read it. How was this anarchist convinced by Maiden?

Don't know, and we can't ask because he wasn't an armchair purist and was actually prepared to go into exile, and then put his life at risk for what he believed in and for his comrades.

But go on, you sneer at him.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Don't know, and we can't ask because he wasn't an armchair purist and was actually prepared to go into exile, and then put his life at risk for what he believed in and for his comrades.

But go on, you sneer at him.

He left us a message mind.

My name is Dmitriy Petrov, and if you are reading these lines, it means that I most likely died fighting Putin's invasion of Ukraine - Freedom News

"I am a member of the Militant Organisation of Anarcho-Communists (BOAC), and will remain so after my death. BOAC is our brainchild, born out of a belief in organised struggle. We managed to lead it across national borders."

freedomnews.org.uk

The Twitter thread gives some details. A Russian involved in the fight against Russian state oppression, against the dictatorship of Putin, chose to fight and ultimately die to kick Russia out of Ukraine

 

[A380]

He left us a message mind.

My name is Dmitriy Petrov, and if you are reading these lines, it means that I most likely died fighting Putin's invasion of Ukraine - Freedom News

"I am a member of the Militant Organisation of Anarcho-Communists (BOAC), and will remain so after my death. BOAC is our brainchild, born out of a belief in organised struggle. We managed to lead it across national borders."

freedomnews.org.uk

The Twitter thread gives some details. A Russian involved in the fight against Russian state oppression, against the dictatorship of Putin, chose to fight and ultimately die to kick Russia out of Ukraine

Thanks for posting that.

 

[LDC]

I read it. How was this anarchist convinced by Maiden?

What do you mean convinced? Why are you using language that none of the reports have? The report says he supported it, I imagine critically. Not a very unusual view at all unless one thinks it was all a US/NATO/CIA sponsored plot...

 

[LDC]

He left us a message mind.

My name is Dmitriy Petrov, and if you are reading these lines, it means that I most likely died fighting Putin's invasion of Ukraine - Freedom News

"I am a member of the Militant Organisation of Anarcho-Communists (BOAC), and will remain so after my death. BOAC is our brainchild, born out of a belief in organised struggle. We managed to lead it across national borders."

freedomnews.org.uk

The Twitter thread gives some details. A Russian involved in the fight against Russian state oppression, against the dictatorship of Putin, chose to fight and ultimately die to kick Russia out of Ukraine

Mentioned on the Left/Ukraine/what to do thread along with Finbar's death.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Mentioned on the Left/Ukraine/what to do thread along with Finbar's death.

One thread to occasionally make me question my sanity is enough to keep track of

 

[A380]

What do you mean convinced? Why are you using language that none of the reports have? The report says he supported it, I imagine critically. Not a very unusual view at all unless one thinks it was all a US/NATO/CIA sponsored plot...

Because TC knows he's a better anarchist than Dmitriy was?

 

[krink]

Hate using ignore but sneering when antifascists die is enough for me. Sort your fucking life out.

 

[TopCat]

Don't know, and we can't ask because he wasn't an armchair purist and was actually prepared to go into exile, and then put his life at risk for what he believed in and for his comrades.

But go on, you sneer at him.

I wasn’t sneering. Just wondering about his journey.

 

[A380]

I wasn’t sneering. Just wondering about his journey.

No point back peddling. Everyone can see your sneery condescending cuntish behaviour and draw their own conclusions.

 

[Dogsauce]

Russia currently has ten strategic bombers up in the air, likely a reply to the Sebastopol strike is forthcoming. Going to be a rough night for some folks. Let’s hope some of the new air defence kit spares a few toddlers this time.

 

[StoneRoad]

Russia currently has ten strategic bombers up in the air, likely a reply to the Sebastopol strike is forthcoming. Going to be a rough night for some folks. Let’s hope some of the new air defence kit spares a few toddlers this time.

I hope & expect that the Ukrainian air defence systems will knock down the majority of the incoming missiles. At least, that seems to be the usual situation.

 

[Dogsauce]

I hope & expect that the Ukrainian air defence systems will knock down the majority of the incoming missiles. At least, that seems to be the usual situation.

The ones that still get through can kill a lot of people. Plus the interception rate that Ukraine claims is almost certainly exaggerated (on the latest raid they claimed to take out all but two, but this was contradicted by at least three explosions reported).

The S300 missiles (primarily for air defence but with a (not greatly accurate) ground attack mode) are also widely used by Russia closer to the front, attacking places like Kharkiv and Odesa, the speed of them makes them hard to intercept. They have a lot of these in stock and the launchers can be far enough away to not be at risk of counter-battery fire.

Add to that ‘glide bombs’ used over shorter range but with a high payload, crushing a path to victory in Bakhmut.

Russian aviation is still a massive threat and Ukraine doesn’t have all the tools to counter it. It’s why they’re asking for western jets so they can hit air targets at greater range. It doesn’t look like they’re going to get any in the near future.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Help raise £5000 to help Bake for Ukraine buy a mobile bakery in southern Ukraine

Weʼre raising money to help Bake for Ukraine buy a mobile bakery in southern Ukraine. Support this JustGiving Crowdfunding Page.

www.justgiving.com

 

[existentialist]

Help raise £5000 to help Bake for Ukraine buy a mobile bakery in southern Ukraine

Weʼre raising money to help Bake for Ukraine buy a mobile bakery in southern Ukraine. Support this JustGiving Crowdfunding Page.

www.justgiving.com

It is important for it to be mobile, so as to protect against counterbakery fire.

 

[LDC]

Bit off topic, but good program on Radio 4 this morning that's well worth a listen imo.

"Adam Rutherford asks what ordinary life was like in the Soviet Union and how far its collapse helps to explain Russia today. Karl Schlögel is one of the world’s leading historians of the Soviet Union. In his latest book, The Soviet Century: Archaeology of a Lost World (translated by Rodney Livingstone), he recreates an encyclopaedic and richly detailed history of daily life, both big and small. He examines the planned economy, the railway system and the steel city of Magnitogorsk as well as cookbooks, parades and the ubiquitous perfume Red Moscow. The historian Katja Hoyer presents a more nuanced picture of life in East Germany, far from the caricature often painted in the West. In Beyond the Wall: East Germany, 1949-1990 she acknowledges the oppression and hardship often faced by ordinary people, but argues that this now-vanished society was also home to its own distinctive and rich social and cultural landscape. But what did it feel like to live through the fall of communism and then democracy? These are the questions Adam Curtis looked to reveal in his 7-part television series, Russia 1985-1999 TraumaZone (available on BBC iPlayer). The archive footage from thousands of hours of tapes filmed by BBC crews across the country records the lives of Russians at every level of society as their world collapsed around them."

 

[LDC]

Probably 2 (8?) years too late, but maybe we need a resources thread...? Just started listening to Snyder's Yale lecture series on Ukrainian history. Know he's not without detractors, but it's a good listen.