The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Didn't say you did tbh another poster did.Never said it was.
Didn't say you did tbh another poster did.Never said it was.
the Millies lines was just bizarre (as you might expect).Yes , it was the RCP and RCG who had the victory to Malvinas line wasn't it. ?
Socialist Organiser I think wanted 'self determination for the Falklands ?
Militant were stop the war ?
And yet still a more coherent line than TC's ... *the Millies lines was just bizarre (as you might expect).
Ooh, I've found it - once again illustrating the genius of Comrade Grant
The labour movement should be mobilised to force a general election to open the way for the return of a Labour government to implement socialist policies at home and abroad. Victory of a socialist government in Britain would immediately transform the situation in relation to the Falklands. The junta would no longer be able to claim to be fighting British imperialism ... A Labour government could not just abandon the Falklanders and let Galtieri get on with it. But it would continue the war on socialist lines.
I think the thread deserves a little detour every now and again . It’s grim stuff . Anyway were you hinting that you backed our boys ?What does the Falklands have to do with Ukraine?
Apart from both being illegally invaded by countries run by extremely unpleasant dictators, that funny enough the people living there didn't want to live under.
And of course, whatever else came from the Falklands campaign * it saw a dictator invade a territory, assuming they would just move in and the government responsible would roll over, get surprisingly (to most of the world) beaten; lose power leading to much needed regime change. Here's hoping.I think the thread deserves a little detour every now and again .
Judging by that weird week in February- aliens.Project and protect from who?
I didn't think for one tiny moment that he was. Not everything has to be about me, so ease back a little on the snark, eh?Don't think he is talking about you tbh
Glad that’s been cleared upI didn't think for one tiny moment that he was. Not everything has to be about me, so ease back a little on the snark, eh?
You are obviously wrong. Lots here support the US etc and want them to win.
Apparently Zelenskyy visited somewhere in Avdiivka, to award medals.
Putin visited somewhere on the Arabit Spit, somewhat further behind the frontlines.
The clip I saw on the BBC had P, opening a gift, which looked like an icon.
To me, it seems strange that, during a "special military operation" a senior officer has the time & resources to obtain such an item of religious significance.
If you're Chinese and have had this joker card up your sleeve all along.And getting behind Russia is better .... how?
- Ukraine’s government has criticised Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva for his efforts to broker a peace deal between Kyiv and Moscow, and invited the Brazilian leader to visit the war-torn country and see for himself the consequences of the Russian invasion. Lula responded by condemning the violation of Ukraine’s territorial integrity by Russia and again called for mediation to end the war.
The UK did not invade Kenya after 1945.
Russia invaded Ukraine because they thought they could get away with it as they did in 2014. Had the push on Kyiv succeeded and Zekensky either capitulated or bern replaced by a puppet, nobody in the West would have cared much. There would have been hand-wringing, wrist-slapping and after a respectable period, business returning back to normal with oligarchs syphoning of their ill-gotten proceeds to the Western financial institutions.“They invaded Ukraine because Ukraine wanted to join an alliance that was formed to stop Russian aggression”
So close, yet so far to epiphany
And not even having the decency of doing so from the cockpit of a bomber.That is truly fucking sickening. Murdering 5 year old children.
Russia invaded Ukraine because they thought they could get away with it as they did in 2014. Had the push on Kyiv succeeded and Zekensky either capitulated or bern replaced by a puppet, nobody in the West would have cared much. There would have been hand-wringing, wrist-slapping and after a respectable period, business returning back to normal with oligarchs syphoning of their ill-gotten proceeds to the Western financial institutions.
This has nothing to do with NATO expansion or with a desire to check Russian expansion. It's a failed invasion which has given the USA & UK the opportunity to . If they didn't get involved they would lose face by appearing as weak as the Russians.
Or with plastic bulletsAnd not even having the decency of doing so from the cockpit of a bomber.
Thats basically how i feel too, but that's the easy bit. The hard bit is what happens next.I don't want anyone to win, I want Russia to lose. More specifically I want Putin and his fucking awful government to lose. There aren't going to be any winners anyway except the arms industry. But generally I confess I probably want the aggressor in a war, to lose the war they start. I wanted the US-UK coalition to lose in Iraq (of course they were never going to but that's not the point). You can hope Russia loses its fucked up macho war, without supporting NATO, the USA, or war in general.
No, it was under British occupation.
YesWel make your mind up. Are we talking about invasions after 1945, which has relevance to the current discussion on the thread, or colonisation throughout history, which doesn't?
Thats basically how i feel too, but that's the easy bit. The hard bit is what happens next.
Russia has successfully annexed the Ukrainian coastline within the first month of the invasion and are fully embedded in the annexed land a year later.
TC posted a link to a letter calling for the US (sorry, Poland-led NATO) to massively increase the amount of arms going to Ukraine as everyone now recognises that this territory is effectively lost and for Ukraine to "win" (it back) it needs to massively increase firepower. That is one option.
In fact there are only three options that NATO will follow:
1. Massively increase the arming of Ukraine and retake the annexed land
2. Supply enough arms to maintain the 'stalemate' (a stalemate in which Russia has successfully annexed the southern sea border), and drag the war on indefinitely
3. Begin peace talks, which to be meaningful will inevitably mean agreeing to the loss of some Ukrainian territory. At the end of any peace talks no doubt a new, heavily armed border would be created.
I guess there is also 4, significant retreat, but under Biden at least, that won't happen, though potentially the clock is ticking towards this if the Republicans win the next election.
That's a realistic picture of the situation. The US has balked at #1 and is doing #2 for now. I can well see the case for #3, even more so if #4 is on the horizon. That was the case the head of the US army was making - negotiate now from a position of relative strength while Ukraine has it.
What calandrr are you using . Gregorian has the invason iat 20 Feb 2014the statement is dated 1 september 2021. the russians invaded ukraine in february 2022.