Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[Ming]

Speaking as a misanthropic nihilist I believe in blowing up bridges rather than building them (do you see what i did there??). Be funny if the world ended due to the arrogance of an over Botoxed cunt with a sense of destiny.

 

[keybored]

its a bit of theatre for the benefit of the Russians in Crimea, civilians primarily. This isnt your land, we can cut you off, bomb the airfields, cause disruption with a relatively low casualty level. Its pure propaganda. Best if you fuck off now. Its not safe for you any more.

Ukraine even helpfully left the Russian bound carriageway intact for them.

 

[alex_]

was the Dugan bombing also theatre but for Russians in Moscow ?

The bombshoi ?

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Musk needs his backside tanned.

 

[Ming]

It's quite hard to say you're alone. When you are actually alone. I hope the guys at the front are OK.

 

[DownwardDog]

Added to the above:

There's a reason that Air Forces attack concrete and steel structures with 1000lb hardened penetration bombs. The two road spans have been dropped and will need to be replaced, but - and caveat, from what it looks like - the railway bridge has just been burnt a bit. It quite possible that while it's made a mess of the railway infrastructure on the bridge, it's had little effect on the actual bridge itself.

Dropping bridges to deny them permanently is very difficult. The Thanh Hoa bridge in Vietnam had 800+ sorties flown against it by USAF/USN (with 11 a/c shot down) and it was still open for business on the last day of the war.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Dropping bridges to deny them permanently is very difficult. The Thanh Hoa bridge in Vietnam had 800+ sorties flown against it by USAF/USN (with 11 a/c shot down) and it was still open for business on the last day of the war.

Was that a lack of precision weapons or just that it was very tough.

 

[DownwardDog]

Was that a lack or precision weapons or just that it was very tough.

I mis-remembered or maybe confused it with a different bridge. They did drop it eventually after seven years of trying using A-7s with Walleyes and Mk.84s.

Thanh Hóa Bridge - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I mis-remembered or maybe confused it with a different bridge. They did drop it eventually after seven years of trying using A-7s with Walleyes and Mk.84s.

Thanh Hóa Bridge - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I didn't realise laser guided bombs were that old!

 

[Artaxerxes]

Was that a lack of precision weapons or just that it was very tough.

The shape of the structure itself doesn't lend itself to being damaged by pressure of nearby impacts while the component nature of most bridges means that even if you take a span out you can focus efforts on the damaged part

 

[The39thStep]

Musk needs his backside tanned.

Or for people to read the first reply to Browders tweet ?

 

[Rob Ray]

It's gone very quiet on news from the front, I'm wondering if that's due to losses round Kherson. Russia seems to have stabilised and pushed back in the last couple days. There's also been some serious bombardment going on.

 

[gosub]

Blimey, never realised satellite pics were so good. ⁰

Current best spec (acknowledged) is basically a hubble pointed at earth..

 

[Dogsauce]

It's gone very quiet on news from the front, I'm wondering if that's due to losses round Kherson. Russia seems to have stabilised and pushed back in the last couple days. There's also been some serious bombardment going on.

Still posts of captured/destroyed vehicles, reports from both sides that Ukraine is consolidating the gains already made in Kherson and weakening the RU rear lines/supply. The main reason it’s gone quiet is that War Twitter & the normal media is too busy arguing over how the bridge was damaged.

 

[Pickman's model]

Still posts of captured/destroyed vehicles, reports from both sides that Ukraine is consolidating the gains already made in Kherson and weakening the RU rear lines/supply. The main reason it’s gone quiet is that War Twitter & the normal media is too busy arguing over how the bridge was damaged.

It's really shitty if something like the bridge can so distract from what's going on elsewhere

 

[Dystopiary]

City of Zaporizhzhia hit by ten missiles.

Enemy Hits Zaporizhzhia with Ten Missiles - Kyiv Post - Ukraine's Global Voice

 

[SpookyFrank]

City of Zaporizhzhia hit by ten missiles.

Enemy Hits Zaporizhzhia with Ten Missiles - Kyiv Post - Ukraine's Global Voice

It's now officially Russian territory so they're bombing themselves.

In fact Zaporizhzhia city has escaped pretty unscathed by bombing up to now, but this is now the second major attack since 'annexation'. All targeted at residential areas.

 

[nogojones]

I think this is true - the Ru army takes railway operations very seriously. They'll certainly have the gear to get that bridge going again, and in short shrift. They probably have the training and maintenance necessary as well, because it's something they practice as part of their normal routine.

Probably.

Maybe after this war - if we're all not drinking out of glowing puddles, Railtrack can recruit some ex-Russian sappers to sort out some things over here

 

[nogojones]

Blimey, never realised satellite pics were so good. ⁰

They saw you typing that in real time.

 

[nogojones]

was the Dugan bombing also theatre but for Russians in Moscow ?

I just saw that as light entertainment

 

[nogojones]

Dropping bridges to deny them permanently is very difficult. The Thanh Hoa bridge in Vietnam had 800+ sorties flown against it by USAF/USN (with 11 a/c shot down) and it was still open for business on the last day of the war.

Whilst the slightest bit of wind and the first Severn bridge closes

 

[existentialist]

I didn't realise laser guided bombs were that old!

IIRC, that bridge was responsible for the development of the first TV-guided bomb.

 

[frogwoman]

 

[teqniq]

Doubling down somewhat:

 

[SpookyFrank]

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Not looking too full of himself.

 

[spitfire]

Doubling down somewhat:

God I wish they’d give that prick a rifle and send him to the front line so he can gloriously sacrifice himself for mother Russia.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

He has the look of someone who knows the game is up.

 

[teqniq]

God I wish they’d give that prick a rifle and send him to the front line so he can gloriously sacrifice himself for mother Russia.

I was having very similar thoughts.

 

[keybored]

They've been parading their most technologically advanced ICBM on the streets again.