Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Six foot 8 if you ask the Kremlin
Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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Six foot 8 if you ask the Kremlin
ska invita
back on the other side
Well a few days ago Liz Truss was talking about Putin going into the Balkans and Baltics next - she clearly must've seen the briefings as she is foreign secretary. I thought she was getting carried away for effect, but Biden is saying it too now:
"He has much larger ambitions than Ukraine. He wants to, in fact, re-establish the former Soviet Union. That’s what this is about”
US intelligence seems to have been proved right up till now. I fear they have evidence to make that above claim.
That really is reason to be scared of whats coming. I just pray they've got that wrong
"He has much larger ambitions than Ukraine. He wants to, in fact, re-establish the former Soviet Union. That’s what this is about”
US intelligence seems to have been proved right up till now. I fear they have evidence to make that above claim.
That really is reason to be scared of whats coming. I just pray they've got that wrong
I doubt they have the capabilities to do all of that in one sitting. But I'm no expert. 
Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
5 foot 7 - same as Tom Cruise.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Supine
Newt Member
This is the statement that is going to get 11 MPs kicked out of the Labour Party
Stop the War Statement on Ukraine – 22/02/22
Stop the War condemns the movement of Russian forces into eastern Ukraine and urges that they immediately...www.stopwar.org.uk
the last line is important for the context of this thread though and the talk about treasonous anti-NATO sentiment etc:
"We send our solidarity to all those campaigning for an end to the war, often under very difficult conditions, in Russia and Ukraine. Stop the War can best support them by demanding a change in Britain’s own policy, which can be seen to have failed."
Living in Britain as a citizen and subject my already very limited agency is only on the role of the British state. We have no influence on Putin, but we do have potential influence on our own state. It is right that our criticisms begin at home
I’m sure Stop The War urging things to stop will change Putins mind. The statement comes across as preachy and futile. Not sure it helps anyone.
T & P
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Funnily enough they both look nowadays as if they use the same plastic surgeon as well.
Why would he want a land grab? That would take him closer to NATO. He wants a Russian friendly (puppet) regime installed imo similar to Belarus.
ska invita
back on the other side
i wasn't defending the statement - its poor - i think it is true though that is justifiable to start by saying what is "our" role in this. We are part of this system whether we like it or not.
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
You fucking twat, but feel free to continue entertaining us with your bizarre input.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
so you are saying he is trying to rebuild the iron curtain?
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
‘Movement of forces’. Wankers
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
he got a stammer for fuck sake its been covered enough
at least he not sucking Putins Balls like trump is doing
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T & P
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He will not launch an attack on a NATO nation. Try to destabilise by indirect means, sure. But the very core of NATO is built around the ‘an attack on any of us is an attack on us all’. Basically risking the start of WWIII and potential worldwide ruination. Won’t do it.
Any neighbouring non-NATO countries that he might consider of high strategic value though, your guess is as good as mine.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Of course even if he doesn't have that intention, no-one is now going to trust that he doesn't. There is going to be large numbers of NATO on his border for the forseeable future.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
I once read a short story by Robert Sheckley about some bloke who lands on a planet somewhere and almost immediately becomes supreme president, or some such title. He can make any decision he likes. What nobody had told him, however, was that as soon as his approval rating falls below 50% he is executed. I think that system should be tried in Russia. And the USA, UK, China, Syria etc
I don't think understanding the intentions of leaders in a geopolitical context involves attributing blame. The West started handing out tickets to the EU / NATO following the collapse of the Soviet Union when Russia was weak. This will have rankled. Now they are strong they are asserting themselves.
I saw a cartoon once where a well dressed bloke in a crown is told by men in white coats that he isn't actually a king, it was a psychiatric experiment which had now ended. I often wish that was true.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Perfectly possible to condemn the invasion whilst explaining the wider context and contributory agencies that have led to this appalling situation where many working class lives are being sacrificed. Although that wouldn’t suit the pro NATO brigade on here
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