Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[frogwoman]

 

[Dom Traynor]

Brilliant to see Urban75 creaming their collective pants over the mass murderers of the Kurdish libertarian socialists. Keep it up eh?

ETA: yeah I know Ukrainians are White - sad to see that makes them more important.

 

[teqniq]

Turkey are, as usual playing both sides against the middle.

 

[nogojones]

I imagine the Baykar sales department can’t keep up with the enquiries at the moment… still good on them for this.

They told me to fuck off when I asked about their PCP prices

 

[A380]

Turkey are, as usual playing both sides against the middle.

It’s Türkiye now you imperialist.

 

[The39thStep]

Nothing more diverse than bits of you ending up in random places.

Millions don’t have that opportunity. We need to think global with our new anti imperialist partners Bayker .

 

[cupid_stunt]

They're certainly doing their bit to promote the numbers of disabled soldiers in the Russian armed forces.

The only people responsible for that is Putin and his cronies.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Brilliant to see Urban75 creaming their collective pants over the mass murderers of the Kurdish libertarian socialists. Keep it up eh?

ETA: yeah I know Ukrainians are White - sad to see that makes them more important.

WTF are you wibbling on about?

No one, not a single poster, is doing that.

 

[Cid]

WTF are you wibbling on about?

No one, not a single poster, is doing that.

Bayraktars have been used extensively against PKK/YPG.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Bayraktars have been used extensively against PKK/YPG.

I know that, and no one on here is 'creaming their collective pants' over that.

 

[A380]

WTF are you wibbling on about?

No one, not a single poster, is doing that.

But how else would people know he is better than everyone else?

 

[maomao]

I know that, and no one on here is 'creaming their collective pants' over that.

There's been quite a lot of excitement about the deaths and injuries caused by Bayraktars though not as much as back in March.

 

[existentialist]

There's been quite a lot of excitement about the deaths and injuries caused by Bayraktars though not as much as back in March.

I think you will find that the "excitement" you are referring to has been more about the Ukrainians being able to successfully defend incursions by a foreign army onto their sovereign lands. Were you in less of a rush to paint everyone except yourself as some kind of warmongering necrophile, you might have noticed that precious few, if any, have been celebrating the loss of life, specifically, amongst the invaders.

Although, TBH, when a significant proportion of those invaders see fit to rape, torture, and murder civilians while its government persists in the ridiculous lie that they're actually trying to save Ukrainians from themselves, it is hardly surprising that the moral lines occasionally get blurred.

 

[maomao]

Were you in less of a rush to paint everyone except yourself as some kind of warmongering necrophile, you might have noticed that precious few, if any, have been celebrating the loss of life, specifically, amongst the invaders.

Although, TBH, when a significant proportion of those invaders see fit to rape, torture, and murder civilians while its government persists in the ridiculous lie that they're actually trying to save Ukrainians from themselves, it is hardly surprising that the moral lines occasionally get blurred.

I've done what now Mr Creamy Pants?

 

[existentialist]

I've done what now Mr Creamy Pants?

Grow the fuck up, FFS.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I've done what now Mr Creamy Pants?

Nothing unusual for you TBH.

 

[maomao]

Grow the fuck up, FFS.

I'm not the one ranting away accusing people of saying things they clearly haven't.

 

[Dom Traynor]

WTF are you wibbling on about?

No one, not a single poster, is doing that.

Literally on the page before with all the reactions to the generous offer from the lovely drone manufacturers.

Hey good on the Ukrainians for using anything they can but let's not celebrate arms companies eh?

 

[Rob Ray]

Think you may have mistaken the level of sarcasm going on from most people on that page.

 

[existentialist]

Think you may have mistaken the level of sarcasm going on from most people on that page.

That's what happens when people are desperately looking for confirmation of something they've already decided it the case.

 

[strung out]

Think you may have mistaken the level of sarcasm going on from most people on that page.

Not sure these ones were sarcastic:

Well, this is a bit special.

I imagine the Baykar sales department can’t keep up with the enquiries at the moment… still good on them for this.

I think that's the praise of arms manufacturers (and associated likes etc.) that people were objecting to.

I'm as big a cheerleader as anyone for the Ukrainian resistance to invasion and genocide of their people, and I'm sure the military is grateful for any help they can get, but let's not pretend that the arms manufacturers are some kind of lovely benevolent socially minded capitalist enterprise.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I think that's the praise of arms manufacturers (and associated likes etc.) that people were objecting to.

When I posted 'Well, this is a bit special. ', that was in respect of the complete story, that 6 million euros was raised in small donations within just a few days by the Lithuanians to support the Ukrainians by buying a Bayraktar, which is impressive, and most of those funds will now be spent on humanitarian aid, which is even better.

The fact that Baykar is donating the drone instead, is just part of the story, and is factual information, I certainly wasn't offering any praise on that. Not that I am surprised that some posters focused on that, rather the wider picture, which is much more impressive.

 

[Spymaster]

When I posted 'Well, this is a bit special. ', that was in respect of the complete story, that 6 million euros was raised in small donations within just a few days by the Lithuanians to support the Ukrainians by buying a Bayraktar, which is impressive, and most of those funds will now be spent on humanitarian aid, which is even better.

The fact that Baykar is donating the drone instead, is just part of the story, and is factual information, I certainly wasn't offering any praise on that. Not that I am surprised that some posters focused on that, rather the wider picture, which is much more impressive.

No need to explain this to a couple of pseudo right-on dickheads trying to out-lefty each other on the internet. Nobody here will hold any particular candle for the arms industry but the fact that this manufacturer has donated the weapon so the money can be used for humanitarian aid IS noteworthy.

 

[maomao]

Yes, people concerned about where the violence and brutality of the war are taking us are just lefty tryhards and the correct response to any doubt or criticism is to scream them down with hysterical made-up nonsense.

 

[A380]

Not sure these ones were sarcastic:




I think that's the praise of arms manufacturers (and associated likes etc.) that people were objecting to.

I'm as big a cheerleader as anyone for the Ukrainian resistance to invasion and genocide of their people, and I'm sure the military is grateful for any help they can get, but let's not pretend that the arms manufacturers are some kind of lovely benevolent socially minded capitalist enterprise.

Jesus. I bet you love going home in the holidays to tell cook about socialism.

 

[ska invita]

the fact that this manufacturer has donated the weapon so the money can be used for humanitarian aid IS noteworthy.

Duly noted under "things shameless cunts do"

 

[Yossarian]

I'm glad Ukraine's got an extra drone and added humanitarian aid, I'm also pretty sure that Baykar would be gleefully selling killer drones to both sides if it wasn't for sanctions/Turkish government policy.

 

[teqniq]

I'm glad Ukraine's got an extra drone and added humanitarian aid, I'm also pretty sure that Baykar would be gleefully selling killer drones to both sides if it wasn't for sanctions/Turkish government policy.

https://tass.com/politics/1427365

and if you'd prefer a non-Russian source:

Turkey faces risks acting as sanctions 'safe haven' for Russians

Since Russia's invasion of Ukraine sparked a flurry of Western sanctions on Moscow, at least one oligarch and thousands of other Russians have arrived in Turkey, seen as a safe place to stay, invest and hold assets despite its NATO membership.

www.reuters.com

 

[The39thStep]

No need to explain this to a couple of pseudo right-on dickheads trying to out-lefty each other on the internet. Nobody here will hold any particular candle for the arms industry but the fact that this manufacturer has donated the weapon so the money can be used for humanitarian aid IS noteworthy.

 

[A380]