Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[_Russ_]

Russian troops have been based in Transnistria since 1992.

Thanks, I knew they were Pro Russia but not that, Whats Moldova's position?, trying to stay out of it?

 

[_Russ_]

And what exactly are they going to do with that when Ukraine are in range to shell it?

What if (what remains of) Ukraine has been forced to accept a new border?, if it gets to that point the Ukraine might rightly think they are fucked if they retaliate.
NATO or countries within NATO need to get in there now and stop it getting to that point imo (should have done it 6 weeks ago iyam)

 

[cupid_stunt]

Whats Moldova's position?

Probably shitting themselves, since Russia announced their intentions are...

“Control over the south of Ukraine is another way to Transnistria, where there is also evidence that the Russian-speaking population is being oppressed,” Tass quoted Minnekayev as saying at a meeting in Russia’s central Sverdlovsk region. LINK

Which was one of the same excuses for invading Ukraine, Moldova is pushing forward with their formal application for EU membership, first signed back in March.

 

[frogwoman]

Trying to seem as pro Ukraine as possible without joining the sanctions. There's Russian troops in Transnistria so they can't do much more than that

 

[_Russ_]

OK, get shit loads of troops/tanks/planes into Moldova Pronto (if the Moldovans allow it of course)

Yea Im a stuck record right now, but we mustn't let Putin get away with shit all the lives lost and futures ruined

 

[cupid_stunt]

OK, get shit loads of troops/tanks/planes into Moldova Pronto (if the Moldovans allow it of course)

Yea Im a stuck record right now, but we mustn't let Putin get away with shit all the lives lost and futures ruined

Moldova is not in NATO, no troops from NATO members are going in there, get a grip.

ETA, if you want to carry on this discussion, can I suggest you take it to the correct thread, rather than derailing this one?

Should the EU/NATO use direct military action to help defend Ukraine?

Well, at least, I'm not the fool wittering on about how much saner and sensible the 80s were. What are you dribbling on about? Who's doing that? Your claim that 'those living in Buenos Aires were living under the threat of being nuked' is false, own it.

www.urban75.net

 

[_Russ_]

Its not your decision is it?, Im just saying they should IMO which counts for fuck all more than yours
As for getting a grip I would direct the same words to all those who think carrying on as we are is going to stop Putin escalating
China is flying plane loads of Missiles to Serbia now, this could quite easily blow up while NATO Twiddles its Generals

 

[maomao]

Its not your decision is it?, Im just saying they should IMO which counts for fuck all more than yours
As for getting a grip I would direct the same words to all those who think carrying on as we are is going to stop Putin escalating
China is flying plane loads of Missiles to Serbia now, this could quite easily blow up while NATO Twiddles its Generals

So what are you saying? Get the minutemen out and nuke those Russian silos before they get a chance to nuke us?

 

[IC3D]

Bit more detailed reportage than we have been getting here from the Eastern front. Spiegel article in English Reddit thought some of you might find it interesting

 

[cupid_stunt]

Its not your decision is it?, Im just saying they should IMO which counts for fuck all more than yours

It's only polite and courteous to keep this discussion to the thread concerning this matter, instead of pissing over this one, you plonker, Rodney.

 

[Pickman's model]

China is flying plane loads of Missiles to Serbia now, this could quite easily blow up while NATO Twiddles its Generals

Don't be so bloody melodramatic, they're sams not icbms
At least cupid_stunt's opinions are rooted in the real world

 

[not-bono-ever]

Russia has been actively working on Moldova for a long time- there a thread on it somewhere on here concerning the Moldovan push to the west rather than the east and the Russians trying to manipulate it. The emptying of the Moldovan banks a decade ago is reckoned to have been led by Russia.Transnistria is a bit of a red herring in this I think. Unless the situation has changed massively of late, there are a grand or so of Russian troops but they have fuck all to do and are not exactly well armed. They just spend their time drinking and decamped in shitty old barracks around the border zone.and extracting bribes from wankers like me when I try to enter

 

[not-bono-ever]

ETA there is a load of ropy munitions and hardware in transnistria from soviet times I suppose but most of it is waist deep in muddy fields by now - it’s all Cold War retro shite and has probably been stripped for scrap by the Russian squaddies

 

[cupid_stunt]

Transnistria is a bit of a red herring in this I think.

It's hardly a red herring, when Russia has declared their intention of creating a land bridge to Transnistria on the pretence of protecting the 'Russian-speaking population [that] is being oppressed', that's a real threat to Moldova.

 

[frogwoman]

Transnistrians want to be independent, but I don't think they're keen on actually being ruled by Russia.

 

[frogwoman]

It's hardly a red herring, when Russia has declared their intention of creating a land bridge to Transnistria on the pretence of protecting the 'Russian-speaking population [that] is being oppressed.'

That's bullshit. There was a very short war in about 1991-2 where about 1500 people died. Transnistria has had de facto independence since then. They've had some relatively fair elections since then and are probably less oppressed than Russians in Russia itself.

 

[frogwoman]

If the Russians are coming to liberate Transnistria from Igor Smirnov and Sherriff, then maybe...but Moldova??

 

[frogwoman]

Russia has been actively working on Moldova for a long time- there a thread on it somewhere on here concerning the Moldovan push to the west rather than the east and the Russians trying to manipulate it. The emptying of the Moldovan banks a decade ago is reckoned to have been led by Russia.Transnistria is a bit of a red herring in this I think. Unless the situation has changed massively of late, there are a grand or so of Russian troops but they have fuck all to do and are not exactly well armed. They just spend their time drinking and decamped in shitty old barracks around the border zone.and extracting bribes from wankers like me when I try to enter

Definitely true, I'm out now if you want can reply in more depth when at home

 

[not-bono-ever]

It's hardly a red herring, when Russia has declared their intention of creating a land bridge to Transnistria on the pretence of protecting the 'Russian-speaking population [that] is being oppressed', that's a real threat to Moldova.

The transnistria admin already rejected calling for a formal annexation by Russia some time ago

 

[cupid_stunt]

That's bullshit. There was a very short war in about 1991-2 where about 1500 people died. Transnistria has had de facto independence since then. They've had some relatively fair elections since then and are probably less oppressed than Russians in Russia itself.

I know it's bullshit, but that is what Russia is saying.

 

[bluescreen]

That's bullshit. There was a very short war in about 1991-2 where about 1500 people died. Transnistria has had de facto independence since then. They've had some relatively fair elections since then and are probably less oppressed than Russians in Russia itself.

Do you think Russia will try and do this, though? Will they encounter enough resistance to stop them if this is what they want to do? Or is talk about it just hyperbole?

 

[frogwoman]

Do you think Russia will try and do this, though? Will they encounter enough resistance to stop them if this is what they want to do? Or is talk about it just hyperbole?

I don’t know. I dont know anyone in Transnistria but Moldovan friends are shitting themselves

 

[frogwoman]

A lot of Moldovans believe RT propaganda bullshit too

 

[cupid_stunt]

The transnistria admin already rejected calling for a formal annexation by Russia some time ago

And, in view of Russia's stated intention, see post 13,173 above, you think that would change anything Russia wants to do, if they are not stopped from putting that land bridge in place?

 

[frogwoman]

Putin wouldn't care

 

[not-bono-ever]

It’s propaganda bollocks.Transnistria faces west for its trade . The Sheriff would be bankrupted

 

[frogwoman]

Calling them 'Russian Troops' is a bit misleading btw when most of them are local Transnistrians. Transnistria also supplies a lot of Moldova's electricity. It's got a big Ukrainian minority too

 

[frogwoman]

It’s propaganda bollocks.Transnistria faces east for its trade . The Sheriff would be bankrupted

They'd be bankrupted if Moldova gets 'liberated' too

 

[_Russ_]

Don't be so bloody melodramatic, they're sams not icbms
At least cupid_stunt's opinions are rooted in the real world

I know they are sams never said otherwise, chill old boy..go play with your Pussy or something

 

[Pickman's model]

I know they are sams never said otherwise, chill old boy..go play with your Pussy or something

You said missiles like they were a threat to NATO. They aren't.