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Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

What’s the point of those companies withdrawing, it’s just them protecting their brand isn’t it. It’s not like Putin will be like oh no I can’t get a latte or watch Netflix so let’s call off the whole thing.

And indeed Pespsi jumps on the bandwagon.

Being flippant, flb has a point.
 
It went out a couple of hours ago on an IAEA press release:

The handling of nuclear material at the Chornobyl NPP has been put on hold for the time being, the regulator added. The site, located in an Exclusion Zone, includes decommissioned reactors as well as radioactive waste facilities. The regulatory authority said it could only communicate with the plant via e-mail.

To help protect the country’s nuclear facilities, the Director General has expressed his readiness to travel to the Chornobyl NPP, or elsewhere, to secure the commitment to the safety and security of all Ukraine’s nuclear facilities from the parties of the conflict.

The Director General also indicated that remote data transmission from safeguards monitoring systems installed at the Chornobyl NPP had been lost. The Agency is looking into the status of safeguards monitoring systems in other locations in Ukraine and will provide further information soon.

 
Are they still monitoring Zaporizhzhia though? This is the active nuclear plant that Russian forces captured on 4 March, and last I read they hadn't let the staff leave so everyone is exhausted on 12 hour shifts.
 
How miserably predictable. Can't we have a proper folk hero any more?

Please please falkirk gardeners, don't have any problematic past issues.

 
BBC News translator for Zelensky in Parliament is terrible. I hope it's better for the MPs.
I heard the first 10 minutes when I was in the car and thought the same. Don't know how much difference the theatre of talking to MPs in the (virtual) flesh would have made, but the drama and urgency was (literally) lost in translation. His structuring the whole thing around 'on day 1 this happened...' didn't really work either. But on the translator/translation issue, don't know why he didn't deliver it in English as he's fluent.

Don't think it will make much difference either way with regard to stiffening sanctions and providing further support. It just didn't have quite the 'impact' you'd imagine.
 
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i don't understand this. Poland is giving fighter planes to America, in Gernmany, and then America will give them to Ukraine, and give other planes to Poland to pay them back.
Why is this a cunning plan what is the thing i'm not understanding?
My guess would be partly that Poland doesn't want to give them directly to Ukraine, lest Putin perceive that to be an act of war or something on Poland's part - him being less likely to go to war against US for donating Migs to Ukraine.

Another reason, I'd guess, would be that Ukrainian pilots are trained to fly Migs, so if they've given Migs, they could fly them. But if the US wanted to give them F-22s or whatevers or EU wanted to give them Eurofighters, the Ukrainian pilots wouldn't necessarily be able to just jump in and take off?

So if Poland gives its Migs to US, which gives them to Ukraine, then Poland gets planes off the US in return, which it then has time to train pilots to fly.

That's my guesswork.
 
Plane deal off, apparently:



There's more on that here -


The suggestion in that article, is that the US was taken by surprise by the announcement from Poland, which strikes me as a bloody odd move by Poland, if it's true.

There's been reports that the US has been pushing Poland to supply these fighter jets and that they would back fill their needs with replacement jets, so I am wondering if it has more to do with the suggestion of transferring them to a US base in Germany, and Germany telling them to piss right off.

Germany was very slow in stepping up and finally suppling some defensive weapons to Ukraine, so it would be understandable if they didn't want their territory used in the supply of these fighters, for fear of an attack, or more likely Russia shutting off gas supplies, which they have been threatening anyway.

It appears to be a complete bloody mess, with reports last week saying they would be supplied followed by a swift U-turn, and now the same again, it's really not fair on the Ukrainians, raising their hopes only to dash them again.
 
That whole plane thing is very odd and looks like the kind of diplomatic fuckup that really should have happened in private. The announcement on the Polish gov website is still there but it could be read as being an offer, pressure on the US, rather than a promised plan of action. Statement of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Poland in connection with the statement by the US Secretary of State on providing airplanes to Ukraine - Ministry of Foreign Affairs Republic of Poland - Gov.pl website

eta our defence secretary is a danger. From cupid_stunt 's article
"British Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said his country would stand by Poland if it handed over the jets, noting that it could face the “direct consequence” of its decision. "And so we would protect Poland, we’ll help them with anything that they need,” Wallace said on Sky News.

wtf is he actually saying there.
 
eta our defence secretary is a danger. From cupid_stunt 's article
"British Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said his country would stand by Poland if it handed over the jets, noting that it could face the “direct consequence” of its decision. "And so we would protect Poland, we’ll help them with anything that they need,” Wallace said on Sky News.

wtf is he actually saying there.

TBF, if Poland does decide they will supply the jets, directly or indirectly, that's actually what both the UK & the rest of NATO would have to do, they couldn't just sit back and watch a Russian attack on Poland, so there would have to be a guarantee of support.

And, that's probably the sticking point here, as it doesn't appear that NATO is united on this.
 
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