Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24
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thought it was NATO's war
teqniq
DisMembered
Not a lot of optimism to be had in Russia according to Julia Davis's reportage:
Putin’s Pals Realize How Much They’ve Screwed Up With the Ukraine War
State TV pundits are fretting about imminent strikes on Russian soil and a never-ending conflict.
www.thedailybeast.com
I know someone who has access to some parts he salvaged from an old tower. He could easily knock out signal for a few miles around. I'm sure it's not beyond a state actor.
Gerry1time
Did a wee in Dirac's toilet
As anyone who has travelled by cross country train between Plymouth and Edinburgh will know all too well.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
NATO has never been fully committed. They have been using Ukraine but haven’t committed the alliance in Ukrainian favour.
No US troops getting legs blown off etc
Zelensky wants NATO fully involved. The whole alliance attacking Russia.
I sense NATO arse fluttering. They will agree more weapons and money, permission to strike in Russia maybe but no way commit the alliance to defend Ukraine.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Zelensky has really pissed off the US Republicans with his comments about Trump and his running mate.
www.aljazeera.com
Trump hits out at Zelenskyy for not striking deal to end war in Ukraine
Republican presidential candidate says even ‘worst deal’ would be better than current level of death and destruction.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Zelensky has really pissed off the US Republicans with his comments about Trump and his running mate.
Trump hits out at Zelenskyy for not striking deal to end war in Ukraine
Republican presidential candidate says even ‘worst deal’ would be better than current level of death and destruction.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Trump hits out at Zelenskyy for not striking deal to end war in Ukraine
Republican presidential candidate says even ‘worst deal’ would be better than current level of death and destruction.
Zelensky annoying idiotic fascists ftw
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Trump said:
Yeah, 80 years on Germany’s still a smouldering pile of rubble.
Are all Putin’s mouthpieces this stupid?
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
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They hate him anyway, and have already said they'd cut him off if elected. So why not go whole hog and pander to the Harris side? If Trump loses, there are enough Republicans in Congress who are only backing him out of party loyalty and I suspect wouldn't hold it against Zelenskyy when Harris-supported aid rolls through.Zelensky has really pissed off the US Republicans with his comments about Trump and his running mate.
Trump hits out at Zelenskyy for not striking deal to end war in Ukraine
Republican presidential candidate says even ‘worst deal’ would be better than current level of death and destruction.
Skinny Ethel
Well-Known Member
Unlike your boy Putin eh.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Putting aside your attempt to personalise this. I ask you, which major allies of Russia has Putin antagonised? Russia is cementing relationships rather than fracturing them.
Skinny Ethel
Well-Known Member
Cementing them ammunition missile contracts and god only knows with what else with Iran. Your not being serious.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I’m usually quite serious.
So yes Putin is cementing relationships rather than fucking them up aka Zelensky and the US yesterday and today.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
So, I wonder why some of the former members of the larger Soviet Union are now members of NATO ?
Might be something to so with the way Russia had behaved in the past (and how it is going about things now)
HeAthen
Nadgers.
Do you not mean Zelensky and Trump?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
This is the latest in the escalating row. Escalating Trump row looms over Zelensky's US visit
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Did Russia view those former members of the Soviet Union now in nato as allies?
This is simply about diplomacy and zelensky putting in peril his major funder.
HeAthen
Nadgers.
The Republicans really are petulant little cry-babies aren't they?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Trump yes but also being accused of interfering in the US election.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I have always viewed them as ultra conservative racist bastards myself.
HeAthen
Nadgers.
Well, that too of course. No wonder they seem to get on with Putin so well.
HeAthen
Nadgers.
Accused by "ultra conservative racist bastards", not "The US".
TopCat
Putin fanboy
I don’t think they get on. I don’t see shared values that much.
Isn’t it more about US protectionism and desire to draw back from funding endless wars that causes them to be lukewarm about supporting Ukraine?
It’s balanced I think by a residual hatred of Russia and a long held desire to see Russia subjugated and opened up fully to capital.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I for one have been in awe at Putin's skill and dedication to achieving his aims through careful diplomacy, over the past few years. Truly a master of the light touch.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh his fawning over fascists has been to say the least unseemly
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
I thought we were upset that Zelensky was treating Trump like shit?
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
He pissed off the British financial establishment who banked, laundered and managed loads of Russian money; and all those politicians nice jobs and gifts.
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Aladdin
Well-Known Member
Plough down into this beeb item, and there are some interesting comments on the results of the investigations carried out on obituaries etc.
Russia’s war dead tops 70,000 as volunteers face 'meat grinder'
More than 70,000 Russian soldiers have died in Ukraine - volunteers now make up the highest number of deaths.www.bbc.co.uk
Quite appalled at the sheer numbers involved ... so many senseless deaths.
Lot of convicts dying between Sept '22 and June '23.... offered "freedom" pardon? For fighting... probably had no choice.
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