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UK music industry, bands, work permits and Brexit

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Geldof can be an arse but he's bang on about this. I can remember touring Europe when we had to fuck about with carnets at border checks and it was a right pain in the arse.

On Wednesday, the prime minister pledged to abolish article 45 of the EU charter of fundamental rights, which grants freedom of movement to EU citizens, and “bring in a new immigration system that ends freedom of movement once and for all”. The letter describes this as “a serious madness”.

Geldof said that everyone he had asked to add their support to the campaign said yes. “I am completely committed to having a democratic public vote to prevent the whole Brexit thing screwing us for the future,” he said.

The fallout for the industry and its stars, from its major touring pop behemoths to culture-innovating club promoters, is stark – and expensive. Last month, Lily Allen joked that had she won the Mercury music prize, the £25,000 prize money would have been spent on “visa applications after Brexit”.

Alex Sushon, a producer and DJ better known as Bok Bok, told the Observer: “I am definitely living in fear of having to secure weekly visas to European destinations in order to keep working. It is a daunting prospect.” Sushon, who runs Night Slugs – one of the UK’s most influential music labels and clubnights – said that curbs to freedom of movement within Europe would be “pretty devastating” for him, and for many more DJs and producers: “Probably 50% of my income depends on it.”
Speaking to the Observer, Al Doyle, a member of Hot Chip and LCD Soundsystem, felt that there was little chance of his bands having the same success if they were starting out now. “With Hot Chip, we didn’t wait to get big in the UK and then match that in Europe – we were always going out there and the margins of touring are so slim that even if you added a tiny element of bureaucratic cost – in visas, touring carnets for gear etc – it wouldn’t be feasible. It is completely plain and unarguable that British music will suffer – it just depends on how much you care about that.”

For small venue owners and record labels, the problems are manifold. Stephen Bass, co-owner of Moshi Moshi Records, the independent that first signed Bloc Party, Kate Nash and Florence + the Machine, predicted that “any change to travel rules” would have “a dramatic effect on the fortunes of the [bands] I look after and the crew of people involved in live shows”.

“Countries like America make it increasingly difficult to tour, and effectively cut themselves off from being a territory in which Moshi Moshi acts can perform and generate income. To have our near neighbours isolating us in a similar way would be a disaster for us and even worse for bands starting out in their careers,” he said.

‘Cultural jail’: Brexit could bring booming industry to its knees
 
Here's the open letter

The open letter
To Theresa May:

Imagine Britain without its music. If it’s hard for us, then it’s impossible for the rest of the world. In this one area, if nowhere else, Britain does still rule the waves. The airwaves. The cyberwaves. The soundwaves. It is of us. It is our culture.

We dominate the market and our bands, singers, musicians, writers, producers and engineers work all over Europe and the world. In turn, Europe and the world come to us. Why? Because we are brilliant at it. No one quite knows why this should be but everyone understands it to be so. The sound and the words seem universal. It reaches out, all inclusive, and embraces anyone and everyone. And that truly is what Britain IS! That is proper Global Britain.

But Brexit threatens, as it does so much else, this vast voice. This huge global cultural influencer. We are about to make a very serious mistake regarding our giant industry and the vast pool of yet undiscovered genius that lives on this little island.

Why are we closing down these possibilities for ourselves and for those as yet unknown to us? Brexit will impact every aspect of the music industry. From touring, sales, copyright legislation, to royalty collation. Indeed it already has. As a result of the referendum vote, the fall in the pound has meant hugely increased equipment costs, studio hire, and touring costs all now materially higher than before – and not forgetting that squeezed household incomes means less money to go to clubs and buy tracks, T-shirts, gigs and generate the vast income necessary to keep the up and comers on the road and musically viable.

A massive 60% of all royalty revenue paid to the UK comes from within the EU. And at home, ANY increase in import duty will mean that ANYTHING that comes to us from outside will cost significantly more. We have decided to put ourselves inside a self-built cultural jail! The very opposite of wall-destroying, prejudice-denying, ideas-generating that is the very essence of contemporary music. And yet it is the much-mocked freedom of movement that so effortlessly allows our troubadours, our cultural warriors, to wander Europe and speak of us to a world that cannot get enough of [them], and which generates countless billions for our threatened institutions.

This is all a serious madness. We must take back our future.We must reform and restructure the EU. When Europe is in a mess, the Brits get stuck in. They don’t withdraw, they double down. They get in close and messy. Make Europe the continent that we and the people of Europe want. Not the one dreamt up in another time by the ideologues, or by the undemocratic fiat of mediocre politicians or the dull exhortations of a pallid bureaucracy. A new one. A different one. An exciting one. A rock’n’roll one.

Let’s rock Europe and let’s save our music, our musicians, our music jobs and our songs. Let’s save our voice.

Yours, Bob Geldof and friends.
 
That's a pretty poor dismissal. Musicians have every right to stand up for their industry just like others involved in food supplies and medicines can articulate their concerns. Or maybe people can fight for both because it's not a mutually exclusive thing, is it?

It wasn't a dismissal. It was a comment on the whole bloody clusterfuck. :(

So much stuff they didn’t seem to even think about. My job is looking more wobbly than most (trying to make rapid mitigations at work right now). If it wasn’t for a name like Geldof a lot of people wouldn’t even hear about the issue, and there are a lot of industries being similarly ignored.
 
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It's not about them, you idiot. It's about the bands, promoters, roadies and all the other people whose livelihood depends on being able to play, promote and sell music abroad.

And just about the state of music.
Which has never been terribly supportive of the Tories generally.
 
Are they making the point that without free market open borders, life will be come more complicated for those transacting across the border?

Do they think people don’t already know that?
 
A lot of Brexiters actually want us to be culturally isolated from the rest of the world, which doesn't help the cause much.

Also I think framing it from a remainer angle was a mistake. If it was framed in a "let's make sure Brexit doesn't ruin music" kind of way, some Brexiters would listen, and the drip, drip, drip as more people from more walks of life speak up and no solutions are forthcoming - that might swing things in a second vote.
 
Are they making the point that without free market open borders, life will be come more complicated for those transacting across the border?

Do they think people don’t already know that?
I don't think that many people know how difficult it was to play abroad before the EU opened up the borders, but they'll certainly notice when the bill at their favourite festival starts getting all monocultural.
 
I don't think that many people know how difficult it was to play abroad before the EU opened up the borders, but they'll certainly notice when the bill at their favourite festival starts getting all monocultural.
Well, people certainly know that all industries are going to find it more difficult post-Brexit. They knew that when they voted out. If it didn't stop them voting out when they thought about medicine and scientific research and food and the import/export of everyday tat, I don't think they're suddenly going to change their mind just because of the fact that sound engineers are going to maybe need a visa.
 
Well, people certainly know that all industries are going to find it more difficult post-Brexit. They knew that when they voted out. If it didn't stop them voting out when they thought about medicine and scientific research and food and the import/export of everyday tat, I don't think they're suddenly going to change their mind just because of the fact that sound engineers are going to maybe need a visa.
*edited: the argument isn't just about 'sound engineers' getting visas, as well you know.
 
*edited: the argument isn't just about 'sound engineers' getting visas, as well you know.
But the point is still the same. What additional thing does Geldof think he is giving to this debate that will suddenly change anything for anyone? People already knew that exporting was going to become harder. They already knew that importing was going to become harder. They knew that. They found that other factors were more important.
 
*edited: the argument isn't just about 'sound engineers' getting visas, as well you know.

I don't see anything in kabbes post that suggested he was talking about how musicians voted.

For myself, as a remain voter, I'm struggling to think what issue would be below the needs of the music industry in the whole Brexit kerfuffle - availability of Himalayan Rock Salt perhaps...?
 
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