UK music industry, bands, work permits and Brexit

[kabbes]

Ban ‘em all and invade Poland!

 

[Proper Tidy]

Last gig - I say gig, it was a tent at a thing in a park - I went to with a group from the european economic area was a polish rap duo. Tbh it wasn't for me. Tent smelt funny and I kept stepping on those nitro cartridge things.

 

[editor]

Editor, clearly DK was gunning for you there, but you were giving a bit back. Perhaps a bit too trigger happy? Anyway, I know we aren't supposed to discuss bans and it is your site and all that, but still

He's only been kicked off as it looked extremely unlikely he was not going to stop trying to disrupt the thread (e.g. his last post), but he can post everywhere else. But feel free to report this to the mods - I'm happy to be overturned if they disagree with the decision.

 

[sim667]

According to you, they bought into a pie in the sky ideal where people could move around countries without bureacrats having any say in it.

I don't think most leave voters actually thought movement within the EU would be more free after Brexit, though. Perhaps some leave voters could correct me.

I mean thats not what i said, or meant. But its still what plenty of them thought. Theres evidence aplenty by just talking to the "expat" brexit voters and realising just how many rules they though should be applied to immigrants back in Britain would definitely never apply to them in the EU countries they're resident. Im not sure if you're aware, my family live across spain and france and ive been going out to both regularly since i was a child. My family's freinds who are part time or full time expats in both countries overwhelmingly voted leave and overwhelmingly didn't think freedom of movement restrictions would apply to them, and the spanish ones certainly didn't think theyd have to face paying for private health insurance, potentially taking spanish driving tests, nor having to apply for tarjeta de residencia's.

Its quite obvious that youve no intention of actually reading what im writing however, and that you're just going to fill in the blanks in whatever way suits your argument, so it seems pointless discussing this any further.

 

[scifisam]

I mean thats not what i said, or meant. But its still what plenty of them thought. Theres evidence aplenty by just talking to the "expat" brexit voters and realising just how many rules they though should be applied to immigrants back in Britain would definitely never apply to them in the EU countries they're resident. Im not sure if you're aware, my family live across spain and france and ive been going out to both regularly since i was a child. My family's freinds who are part time or full time expats in both countries overwhelmingly voted leave and overwhelmingly didn't think freedom of movement restrictions would apply to them, and the spanish ones certainly didn't think theyd have to face paying for private health insurance, potentially taking spanish driving tests, nor having to apply for tarjeta de residencia's.

Its quite obvious that youve no intention of actually reading what im writing however, and that you're just going to fill in the blanks in whatever way suits your argument, so it seems pointless discussing this any further.

How can you say it's not what you said, then say the exact same thing again? I don't see how I'm filling in any blanks when you literally just said that plenty of people "didn't think freedom of movement restrictions would apply to them." And you initially said "leavers" thought that way, not "some leavers who lived in Spain."

I'm genuinely a bit baffled how you can deny saying something and then say the same thing again.

 

[editor]

*I posted something but I need to double check it. Sorry

 

[bimble]

Well this is just mind bogglingly shit.
£244 per person visa (/tax) if you a foreigner want to come and play music in this silly country.

Non-UK musicians will need visa to perform in the country from 2021

Musicians from outside the UK will need to apply for a visa and pay to perform in the country from 2021, the Home Office has confirmed.

www.nme.com

 

[editor]

Oh for fuck's sake

Visa fees for foreign artists touring the US to increase by over 50%

Visa fees for foreign artists touring the US will increase by over 50% before the end of 2020, it has been announced.

www.nme.com

(Edit to add: not Brexit but more of the same shit)

 

[ska invita]

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[The39thStep]

Spinal Tap reunion tour of the States off the cards then

 

[editor]

Spinal Tap reunion tour of the States off the cards then

It's going to totally fuck up the already tiny amount of non-mainstream bands who get the chance to play the US.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Timing of this is weird, currently you can’t enter the US anyway, so why bother messing with visa fees now..?

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

Timing of this is weird, currently you can’t enter the US anyway, so why bother messing with visa fees now..?

forward planning orange stylee

 

[belboid]

Timing of this is weird, currently you can’t enter the US anyway, so why bother messing with visa fees now..?

haven't you heard? there'll be a vaccine by november

 

[Badgers]

Depressing stuff...

 

[editor]

Here's the full misery. FUCK BREXIT

 

[editor]

Here's a thoroughly depressing article

Brexit’s Toll On Britain’s Creative Industries: The Sadness and Madness that Awaits

Composer Howard Goodall sets out what performers will need to know in a post-Brexit world and reflects on the sorrow of the Government’s desire to erect barriers, when the job of creatives is to tear them down

bylinetimes.com

 

[Humberto]

You're really selling it

 

[Maggot]

David Frost, who negotiated the Brexit deal, has the nerve to moan about the lack of international orchestras at the proms.