The Trump presidency

[coley]

Trump could occupy the first say 20 miles of Mexico to act as a buffer zone for the protection of the US. Mexico has a hard job keeping this place under control at the best of times, so will probably be secretly pleased. Guerilla warfare from the bad Hombres in this comfort zone ( the Zeta special forces lot who seem to run much of the cross border traffic). Not so far to transport the body bags back to the USA either.

Remember the Alamo

 

[bimble]

Trumps supporters can read??

Yes they can read, just they read what they want to read and not what you think they ought to, and that's a key bit of why the trump got elected in the first place. My aunt (in Florida) who was planning to vote for him, explicitly said that his lack of cleverness is what made him trustworthy and appealing, compared to Clinton.

There's a book called 'Anti-intellectualism in American Life' which won the non fiction nobel prize in 1964. I've had it on the shelf for years took it down for a look recently and the deep roots of what's at play or maybe coming to fruition are important.

 

[CrabbedOne]

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Organizations like the Government Accountability Project have been busy as federal employees fret about what their new bosses may ask them to do.

“We’ve had a significant number of federal employees who have contacted us in recent weeks,” said Louis Clark, the non-profit’s CEO. “It has to be the largest influx of people trying to reach us that we’ve seen.”

The largest group of callers? “The people who want to know what to do if they’re asked to violate the law,” Clark said.

Jeff Ruch, the executive director of Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, said EPA employees are in perhaps the “deepest pit of despair” among his group’s membership.

He said his group has been fielding calls on everything from what triggers a reduction in the federal workforce to how long they can carry health insurance benefits if they are pushed out.

Asked how EPA employees are feeling, Ruch said, “In the broadest sense, scared and depressed.”

My bold, but sure Mr Trump would never do that?

 

[CrabbedOne]

Wouldn't be the first time they have 'annexed' large bits of Mexico.

That did lead to the Civil War though.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes they can read, just they read what they want to read and not what you think they ought to, and that's a key bit of why the trump got elected in the first place. My aunt (in Florida) who was planning to vote for him, explicitly said that his lack of cleverness is what made him trustworthy and appealing, compared to Clinton.

There's a book called 'Anti-intellectualism in American Life' which won the non fiction nobel prize in 1964. I've had it on the shelf for years took it down for a look recently and the deep roots of what's at play or maybe coming to fruition here are important.

there isn't a non-fiction nobel prize

 

[bimble]

there isn't a non-fiction nobel prize

Sorry. Yep . Think he won a nobel, the book won the pulitzer.

 

[coley]

That did lead to the Civil War though.

It did? How, (not a twitter link, pleeze)

 

[Pickman's model]

Sorry. Yep . He (author) won the nobel prize, the book won the pulitzer.

that's better.

 

[bimble]

that's better.

He didn't win a nobel prize at all, that was another Hofstadter.
But the books a good one, especially given that he felt he was observing something urgently important at the time, over 50 years ago.

ANTI- INTELLECTUALIS M IN AMERICAN LIFE : RICHARD HOFSTADTER : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

 

[CrabbedOne]

Trump could occupy the first say 20 miles of Mexico to act as a buffer zone for the protection of the US. Mexico has a hard job keeping this place under control at the best of times, so will probably be secretly pleased. Guerilla warfare from the bad Hombres in this comfort zone ( the Zeta special forces lot who seem to run much of the cross border traffic). Not so far to transport the body bags back to the USA either.

Hell, why stop there. Trump reckons Iraq would have been fine if "we'd kept the oil". Look at the basins on this baby:

After the La Conquista Trump just completes the wall the Mexicans are building on their Southern border to keep migrants out and the Mexican oil will pay for everything. Esta de puta madre!

Next the Canadians and their damned socialised medicine.

 

[CrabbedOne]

It did? How, (not a twitter link, pleeze)

Effect on the American Civil War

...
President Ulysses S. Grant, who as a young army lieutenant had served in Mexico under General Taylor, recalled in his Memoirs, published in 1885, that:

Generally, the officers of the army were indifferent whether the annexation was consummated or not; but not so all of them. For myself, I was bitterly opposed to the measure, and to this day regard the war, which resulted, as one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation. It was an instance of a republic following the bad example of European monarchies, in not considering justice in their desire to acquire additional territory.[176]​

Grant also expressed the view that the war against Mexico had brought punishment on the United States in the form of the American Civil War:

The Southern rebellion was largely the outgrowth of the Mexican war. Nations, like individuals, are punished for their transgressions. We got our punishment in the most sanguinary and expensive war of modern times.[177]​

...

A commonly held view.

A view shared by Professor David W. Blight of Yale I recall. It's well worth spending a couple of days absorbing his HIST 119: THE CIVIL WAR AND RECONSTRUCTION ERA, 1845-1877 course online, it's free.

Grant's opinion did make me think: is Trump in part comeuppance for our role in Iraq's wars? Certainly greatly disappointed a Hell of a lot Septics who supported the venture.

 

[CrabbedOne]

On Politico Trump’s campaign paid his businesses millions over course of campaign

A cool $12.8 million of business.

 

[bimble]

On Politico Trump’s campaign paid his businesses millions over course of campaign

A cool $12.8 million of business.

is the swamp drained yet?

 

[Brainaddict]

is the swamp drained yet?

He's a swamp in his own right.

 

[bimble]

So they've decided to reverse a rule which said that coal mining companies can't dump their debris into streams.
Looks like cartoon corporate villain stuff. But maybe they are genuinely trying to help the supporters who want jobs in a revived coal industry regardless of whether they'd have to drink mercury or not.
GOP moves to undo Obama rules protecting streams from coal mines

 

[bluescreen]

And they've dumped the rule that says FF companies can't bribe foreign governments. An Anti-Corruption Measure Dies in the House

 

[Cloo]

is the swamp drained yet?

It's been swallowed up in an even bigger one.

 

[J Ed]

Jesus

Press Secretary Sean Spicer Falsely Accuses Iran of Attacking U.S. Navy Vessel, an Act of War

 

[teqniq]

What the fuck is the matter with these people? Seem to want a nice little war with the Iranians. Only trouble is they may well be biting off more than they can chew. One can only but hope saner heads prevail.

 

[Kaka Tim]

TBH I think trump is pretty much capable of doing anything - hes deluded enough for sure. The question is how much he can be held back. He clearly has got the hots for going to war with Iran - but im would be surprised if the CIA, the in-touch-with-reality wing of the republican party, the state department and the pentagon share his enthusiasm - as it would be a fucking disaster with no winners - other than Russia.
How far would the establishment go in restraining him? How dirty? Im guessing they have some pretty compromising stuff on him - or are in the process of collecting it.
I can't see them just saying "yes mr president" and launching the cruise missiles,drones and the marine armoured corps at Tehran.

 

[teqniq]

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[TomUS]

In Trumps America it can, though no doubt some efforts will be made to identify 'Mexican terrorists'

In the Donald's mind Mexican ISIS fighters are pouring over the border, but the real problem with them Mexicans is all that violent crime against white people......gotta get the wall built ASAP.

 

[Supine]

Pharma have started the fight back against Trump and his stupid plans for the FDA. Will hear a lot more about this when FDA changes start to get announced.

AstraZeneca CEO: We want a ‘strong, science-led FDA’ | FierceBiotech

Trump talking rubbish "Trump said at the meeting: “We’re going to get rid of a tremendous number of regulations. We’re going to be cutting regulations like nobody has ever seen before. And we're going to have tremendous protections for the people, perhaps even more protections for the people. We’re going to streamline the FDA."

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Pharma have started the fight back against Trump and his stupid plans for the FDA. Will hear a lot more about this when FDA changes start to get announced.

AstraZeneca CEO: We want a ‘strong, science-led FDA’ | FierceBiotech

Trump talking rubbish "Trump said at the meeting: “We’re going to get rid of a tremendous number of regulations. We’re going to be cutting regulations like nobody has ever seen before. And we're going to have tremendous protections for the people, perhaps even more protections for the people. We’re going to streamline the FDA."

A pox on both their houses. Big Pharma in the US is probably against revamping the FDA because they control it through regulatory capture. The FDA needs revision, but I don't trust either of these entities to do it.

 

[TomUS]

Jesus

Press Secretary Sean Spicer Falsely Accuses Iran of Attacking U.S. Navy Vessel, an Act of War

Trump just said military action against Iran is not off the table. He's and Bibi are itching for it.

 

[bimble]

"“Some of these situations may get a little unpleasant,” Bannon said in November 2015. “But you know what, we’re in a war. We’re clearly going into, I think, a major shooting war in the Middle East again.”

 

[hot air baboon]

Navy: Special forces flew Trump flag in convoy

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Navy: Special forces flew Trump flag in convoy

I figured we were doomed when they started using banana republic speak like "homeland" during W's administration. That term makes my brain stem itch every time I hear it.

 

[J Ed]

I wonder whether this is an allusion to Trump jettisoning Yellen, and post-neoliberalism

End of central bankers' '15 minutes of fame' draws near: BoE's Carney

Central bankers' "15 minutes of fame" are coming to an end as governments around the world focus increasingly on fiscal spending and trade, Bank of England Governor Mark Carney said on Thursday.

The comment was one of the most pointed from a major central bankers about the difficulties now being faced after years of propping up economies with asset purchases and negligible interest rates.

"In many respects, we're coming to the last seconds of central bankers' 15 minutes of fame, to use the Warhol line, which is a good thing," Carney said.

"It's a more balanced policy mix. Also structural policy is becoming more important, trade policy clearly important here and elsewhere."

 

[hot air baboon]

it certainly pre-dates the election result - they are basically running out of assets to buy as part of QE programmes for one thing :

The global pivot towards fiscal policy