8ball
Merr xmas...
So their cider is basically like our ginger beer, but with apples?
I think there was a film called Hard Cider wasn’t there?
Is Trump's personality a result of self-loathing?
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So their cider is basically like our ginger beer, but with apples?
I think there was a film called Hard Cider wasn’t there?
Silas Loom
Man with glasses
It’s just apple juice. Not even fizzy. Terrible country.
8ball
Merr xmas...
Ah. But they call orange juice “OJ” rather than “a screwdriver”.
We have our oddnesses too tbf.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
No, they call a screwdriver a mimosa
An OJ is just orange juice
rubbershoes
not the only raver in the village
Mimosa is bucks fizz
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
D’oh, my bad
Screwdriver is with vodka though, which I think is called that on both sides of the pond
Silas Loom
Man with glasses
It’s just a vodka and orange juice. I poured hundreds as a barman and was never asked for a screwdriver.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
I always just said "vodka and orange" in this country (when i used to drink them). I remember the confused look i got in las vegas when i said that "What you mean a screwdriver?".
Silas Loom
Man with glasses
Weirdos. No wonder they are so keen on Trump. A rum and coke is presumably a mole wrench or something.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
It’s probably something horribly racist and unpostable
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
We have alcoholic ciders too.
Silas Loom
Man with glasses
Or as you call them, rawl plugs.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Cider won't hold screws in a wall.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
That's where i'm going wrong...thanks!Cider won't hold screws in a wall.
What trauma has Trump ever suffered? What does he have to fear? Is he capable of shame? I reckon he's the same personality-type as Jeffrey Archer or Winston Churchill: pathological ambition combined with a lack of self-awareness so total as to border on autism. Very few people but Trump could have withstood the kind of media savaging he's suffered over the past 6 years, and it shows a kind of insanely stubborn strength you must admit. He's simply incapable of seeing himself as others see him.
The only thing Biden's ready for is a nice cup of hot cocoa.
Humberto
Margin (martian) margin
I imagine he works quite hard and long hours. And there's nobody come through with a more popular and plausible leadership pitch.
I really doubt he works at all. Reagan was the same. The mystery is why they haven't pulled anyone else out of the hat yet, and actually I still think they might draft Gavin Gruesome.
Humberto
Margin (martian) margin
At all? You think he's warmed up, shoved in front of a tele promter then goes and plays in the sand pit?
Pretty much. Watch him in his unguarded moments, just before or after speeches, or when he thinks the camera isn't looking. I've known old people like him before, he's away with the fairies. Sometimes it's quite revealing, like here:
Actually it's a "Cuba Libre." Weirdly, they use the same term in both Havana and Miami.
Humberto
Margin (martian) margin
I thought he was very relaxed and statesman like. Unfortunately it was to someone who they shouldn't be seeking favour with, but do. There's much to critisise on a more relevant thread on that. Why he made the sign of the cross I don't know. Pretty low in the supposed 'gaffe' spectrum these guys are riddled with in their formal mutual arse-kissing-for-the-cameras mode.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
It was in response to the being friends for 40 years and looked like a "thanks to god for that" to me.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Biden was raised Catholic and he seems to still be a member of the faith. I've seen them use the sign of the cross as a way of acknowledging/wishes for good health for an old friend. Or, as a quick way to say "from your lips to god's ear" kinda thing.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
His niece Mary once wrote about an incident in his childhood when her father dumped a plate of mashed potato over his head at dinner in order to stop him bullying/tormenting their younger brother.
The shame/humiliation he suffered that day appears to have entered Trump-family lore as a pivotal moment in the formation of his later personality. It also happened at the time when Donald was not the golden-boy. As the eldest, it was her father Fred Jr who was assumed to be the heir-apparent until he showed no desire to join the family business. Which led to his virtual exclusion and having to get a real job until he died from drink-related illness years later.
I'd also suggest that his greatest fear is one common to many with severe narcissistic traits - that of being shown-up for what he is and he will do/encourage anything that deflects from or transfers any responsibility/accountability on to absolutely anyone else.
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pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Some of them also see it as humanising him in some way - Most notably/extremely the whole quasi-religious "Son of Man" shit.
Monte
You can't say lavatory without saying tory.
It's a Bobby Charlton here in the Motherland.
Silas Loom
Man with glasses
Hence the desperate measures this troubled man pursues to recreate the appearance of that traumatic moment, with bouffant comb overs and hairspray and dyes in various shades of mashed potato yellow.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
And he only eats burgers and chips. I think you're onto something here ...
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I don't doubt that Trump's personality is the result of self-loathing on some level.
But it scarcely matters either way. Why do so many people vote for him? That's the more important, interesting and difficult question.
Not just him of course. Milei, Bolsonaro. It seems like an act of self harm to vote for people like them who will work against your interests, yet people do it in their tens of millions.
But it scarcely matters either way. Why do so many people vote for him? That's the more important, interesting and difficult question.
Not just him of course. Milei, Bolsonaro. It seems like an act of self harm to vote for people like them who will work against your interests, yet people do it in their tens of millions.
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