Cloo
Banana for scale
Yeah me, it was actually a real benefit to me with my very disparate friend group who I could all keep in touch with in one place.
Meta to get rid of factcheckers and recommend more political content (FB, Insta, Threads)
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8ball
#notallwomenz
Main things I note is that there is nothing about the huge amount of scam advertising on Fb, or their use of algorithms that are designed to create “engagement” by amplifying the most base instincts of users.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
But they wear jeans and converses to the office and have wellbeing spaces and meditation hubs, so I’ll let em off.
stdP
One Swiss dinosaur in Polly Gosling's anorak hood
Granted I'm the world's worst person for keeping in touch with anyone, but when I nuked my facebook account a lot of my extended circle didnae have mail addresses I knew of... and AFAIK all the "oooh let's get together and..." still happened on facebook and I was rarely mailed by anyone (I think facebook nixing the mail feature for this sort of thing was one of the nails in the coffin for me back in the day). The network effect of social media is core to its existence and the lack of any interoperability with third-party/competitor products or open standards is key to keeping you in the walled garden. As such, I've lost touch with a lot of people I'd prefer not to have done.
These days the same is still pretty much true, but the organising happens on what's app instead of facebook. Which again I won't use since it's a Meta property and thus I trust it about as far as I can throw a life-sized lead sculpture of the Albert Hall.
Like Crispy I also miss its early days (although I still shake my head at my earlier self for how naive I was thinking this would all stay like this forever, and all that info would never used against me). I think I was a relatively early adopter given my permanently online nature at the time, plus an ex who was doing their PhD finagling an account for me back when it was university-only still. To paraphrase Hemingway, it's descent in to moral bankruptcy started very slowly, and then very quickly. The last time my partner visited the website it was completely unrecognisable as somewhere that people once used to frequent and enjoy, a bit like returning to your home town and finding the house you grew up in is now the local Reform HQ.
Whilst it's no secret that facebook itself has very little engagement even with its long-term users, and the kids won't use it because their parents are there (I don't think any of the 20somethings I work with have a facebook presence), don't forget there's still the draw of WA and instagram (the latter especially seems almost universally installed on the phones of the younglings at work and is a far bigger snooper than WA). Threads too, but to a lesser extent. All still provide that sweet, sweet data broker analytics revenue.
Certainly they're worried though, but seeing what's happened to the twitching corpse of twitter I'm sure they're rubbing their hands at the prospect of being middle men for engineered controversy and endless scams and grifting. There's always a lot of money to be made in chaos.
moochedit
I'm not feeding seagulls
5 and 6 does sound like fb are going full x. Will zuckerberg be commentating "interesting" on the grifters next
Presumably the thought of having to factcheck the President hundreds of times a day again is a pretty big driver of this. Just depressing how big tech has quickly collapsed and turned to shit.
Deleting Facebook after this (easy decision as hardly use it) unfortunately WA and Instagram is more difficult though.
Deleting Facebook after this (easy decision as hardly use it) unfortunately WA and Instagram is more difficult though.
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PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
Senator Scott Weiner has published on Threads the following aspects from the new regulations underpinning Meta's content moderation policy:
"Under Meta’s new content moderation policy, certain online attacks are banned unless the target is LGBTQ, in which case the attacks are allowed.
Yes you read that right: There’s a queer exception to Meta’s restrictions on attacks on people, specifically:
"Under Meta’s new content moderation policy, certain online attacks are banned unless the target is LGBTQ, in which case the attacks are allowed.
Yes you read that right: There’s a queer exception to Meta’s restrictions on attacks on people, specifically:
danny la rouge
I have a cheese grater in the dishwasher.
“Given the political and religious discourse about Jews, slavery, and women, it’s fine to be a prick about them too”.Senator Scott Weiner has published on Threads the following aspects from the new regulations underpinning Meta's content moderation policy:
"Under Meta’s new content moderation policy, certain online attacks are banned unless the target is LGBTQ, in which case the attacks are allowed.
Yes you read that right: There’s a queer exception to Meta’s restrictions on attacks on people, specifically:
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Cloo
Banana for scale
Watch out for bigotry now being recast as 'mainstream/political/religious discourse'. Deeply sinister, they are talking about literally normalising calling queerness or being trans a 'mental illness' because what does the international psychiatric professional community know anyway.
Honestly he ought to have just added that they'll be instating a 2-minute hate.
Honestly he ought to have just added that they'll be instating a 2-minute hate.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Senator Scott Weiner has published on Threads the following aspects from the new regulations underpinning Meta's content moderation policy:
"Under Meta’s new content moderation policy, certain online attacks are banned unless the target is LGBTQ, in which case the attacks are allowed.
Yes you read that right: There’s a queer exception to Meta’s restrictions on attacks on people, specifically:
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Full blusky thread on this
The "Weird" clause seems really tailored to the Kamala campaign, so its good to see that yes it really got the weird guys upset because they are very weird.
ska invita
back on the other side
Regarding Facebook useage this an excellent piece
www.wheresyoured.at
As I said " the company no longer reports daily active users, it now uses another metric: “family daily active people.” This number refers to “registered and logged-in users of one or more of Facebook’s Family products who visited at least one of these products on a particular day.” - you cant tell how many people us Facebook anymore, its hidden within the mulch of Meta.
The stats they do report suggest "that despite adding over 100 million new monthly active users in one property [not facebook], it’s shedding tens of millions of users elsewhere. [very likely in facebook]"
The piece goes on to describe how hard they try to promote clicks for the sake of bumping up their dodgy stats. Its a clickbait farm, whereas it used to be a social connection platform.
We're Watching Facebook Die
Like this newsletter? You should listen to the Better Offline episode! In the first quarter of 2024, Meta made $36.45 billion dollars - $12.37 billion dollars of which was pure profit. Though the company no longer reports daily active users, it now uses another metric: “family daily active
www.wheresyoured.at
The stats they do report suggest "that despite adding over 100 million new monthly active users in one property [not facebook], it’s shedding tens of millions of users elsewhere. [very likely in facebook]"
The piece goes on to describe how hard they try to promote clicks for the sake of bumping up their dodgy stats. Its a clickbait farm, whereas it used to be a social connection platform.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
At some point about a decade ago it started to just outright hide posts from my family, which is what I mainly used it for. Then other platforms came along and nobody really used it anyway.
Its basically unusable at this point, you don't get a decent chronological view of your timeline and the only draw for it seems to that its used to organise local social groups or niche interest groups. I'm not sure why you'd use it unless you already had an existing network on there. Its just full of so much crap and advertising.
ska invita
back on the other side
Ive had profiles for music projects on there. All got pushed to creating PAGES
Then posts from PAGES stopped being shows in peoples feeds - if you wanted them to be seen you had to BOOST (Pay). The whole thing became pointless. Its not worth me paying - I'm not selling anything. Pure greed from Facebook
I was subbed to loads of PAGES and GROUPS but never saw anything from them pop up in feeds, so why visit Facebook?
I had a fake account with pure political content and that became shitter with non subscribed content too. Political content deliberately got choked.
Oh and re their stats I think Whatsapp is doing a lot of heavy lifting for "the family" of products
Then posts from PAGES stopped being shows in peoples feeds - if you wanted them to be seen you had to BOOST (Pay). The whole thing became pointless. Its not worth me paying - I'm not selling anything. Pure greed from Facebook
I was subbed to loads of PAGES and GROUPS but never saw anything from them pop up in feeds, so why visit Facebook?
I had a fake account with pure political content and that became shitter with non subscribed content too. Political content deliberately got choked.
Oh and re their stats I think Whatsapp is doing a lot of heavy lifting for "the family" of products
ska invita
back on the other side
Thats capitalism I guess! Billions makes billions
But it would be interesting to know where the money comes in precisely
Cloo
Banana for scale
Honestly I reckon there's money in someone recreating a purely social Facebook type site, not trying to be cool or cutting edge, just aim it at boring old gen x and boomers and charge a small monthly fee, like £3 (maybe after a few free months to get it rolling, but be transparent it'll be a small charge after a time). No ads, no algorithms, just a chronological feed of what your contacts are doing, their photos, memes etc. If you get a couple million users you've got millions of quid a month coming in.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
i am hoping that future designers/tech people etc are taking note of what has been some of the failures of social media, and some of the negatives outcomes associated with it in regards societal impact. this first wave of digital social media tech masters have, no matter how i look at it, turned out to be a right bunch of cunts.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Nobody will pay for it.
It can have ads, and they can be got rid of for a small fee, but it has to be free at point of use or it'd never take off. It can be profitable this way, it just won't have the hyper-growth that tech investors demand.
Skinny Ethel
Well-Known Member
Bring back corresponding by letter. A hand written not telling me my freezer insurance has ran out is far nicer than an email. I dont really understand what the fuck im going on about. I just want them all to fuck off being cunts.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
It’s because the big sites have an effective monopoly on things. Smaller sites get killed or bought off and the mass traffic isn’t there for alternatives
Bus Honeygun
This week the score draws are plentiful
A mate has just given me a good tip if anyone else wants to avoid all the unwanted AI bullshit and/or right-wing suggested content.
Go to Feeds and click Friends or Groups or Pages and you get just that - stuff posted by friends or within groups or things you actively follow. The only interruptions are adverts for dull and ordinary stuff, which are just annoying rather than infuriating.
Doesn't stop your mates or groups or pages you follow posting crap, but at least you can bin or mute them.
Go to Feeds and click Friends or Groups or Pages and you get just that - stuff posted by friends or within groups or things you actively follow. The only interruptions are adverts for dull and ordinary stuff, which are just annoying rather than infuriating.
Doesn't stop your mates or groups or pages you follow posting crap, but at least you can bin or mute them.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
we weren't doing too bad back in the days before it was all big money. More user led organic forms. Its really gone to shit once the v wealthy/high status not only started owning it but participating in the convos at all. Look at how many slebs and politicos have clearly fucked their brains out of their ears on social media, been radicalized. That linehan cunt for starters.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
I see Clegg has resigned. This fucking guy. Probably one of the least successful, most reviled politicians in recent UK history (eclipsed only by Truss and her cronies) and he lands this bullshit job that he makes 10s of millions from. Wanker.
www.theguardian.com
Nick Clegg’s departure signals a new political era at Meta
Centrist and globalist Clegg is being replaced by a conservative champion ahead of Trump’s second term
Skinny Ethel
Well-Known Member
Can everyone not just chill out and listen to radio 3 for a bit. Am fucking fed up.
Plumdaff
joy in people
I haven't used FB for several years, but unlike Twitter I've never quite deactivated my account because it will cut off any form of communication with a number of people from my past. I suspect FB relies on that for a massive amount of its supposed "active" accounts.
I should spend some time contacting those I do want to remain in some contact with because it's not really tenable for me to remain on there (and after I deactivated it off my phone, I haven't in truth missed it - I have WhatsApp chats for all that keeping up with close mates/ family that used to be on FB)
I should spend some time contacting those I do want to remain in some contact with because it's not really tenable for me to remain on there (and after I deactivated it off my phone, I haven't in truth missed it - I have WhatsApp chats for all that keeping up with close mates/ family that used to be on FB)
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