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The Ashes 2009

two sheds said:
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Well excuse me if i'm wrong, but as i recall WE got the ashes that we took off you last time having whipped your little pink arses, so you have to beat us to get them back.

So, besides the moral victory (heroic last-wicket partnership, we got more runs than you did, we only drew cos it pissed it down, etc. etc.) the draw effectively means we're 1-0 up in the series. :)
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i assume the 'we' is england?

if so, i take it you've fallen for the media conveniently forgetting the last tour to australia? a whitewashing which means they're effectively 1-0 up.
 
And in other news, the incompetence of the Windies Cricket Board and their players has caused the West Indies to lose to Bangladesh at home. Always nice to know there's someone worse off than yourself.
 
Nemo said:
And in other news, the incompetence of the Windies Cricket Board and their players has caused the West Indies to lose to Bangladesh at home. Always nice to know there's someone worse off than yourself.
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What the fucking fuck.

West Indies put out a reserve team for a test match.

I never, ever thought I would ever see that.

I'm :mad: :confused: and :( in roughly equal measure.

Bangladesh should have refused to play. That was not a fucking Test Match.

Yet again, fuck.:(

What's the story - is it a money thing?

What a bloody disgrace.
 
Been confimed that Swalec Stadium will have a ODI next season, Australia. In 2011 they have a test match, Sri Lanka, and a ODI.

They will find out at end of July about further test matches until 2016, but will have to wait to find out about further Ashes tests as the bidding starts then!
 
Why the hell are West Indian cricketers 'incompetent' for sticking up for decent wages. People don't realise how little the majority earn for such high profile positions, nor how they feel increasingly forced towards 20/20 and playing elsewhere. It's a vital matter for cricket going forward in the region.

On this score Dwyer's actually correct. The WICB have always been a bunch of money grabbing politicos who've fucked the players over. It came home to roost after two 5-0 blackwashes of England and two World cups, when the players were offered an insultingly bounteous £50 bonus for their efforts. This merely continues the same sad tradition of unrest between the board and players.
 
The West Indian players have always been paid poorly.I would like to see a players union calling an international strike in support of equal pay across the board(except for captains)
 
They're paid a great deal more than the Bangladesh team.

The WI squad is in fact much better paid now than it was. The real issue as I understand it is the lack of pay for anyone with no central contract. As soon as they lose that contract, they're buggered.
 
Personally I'd say they were incompetent for not protesting before a more important series; if they'd protested before one of the recent Wisden Trophy series or the tour to New Zealand (I think I'm right in saying that this particular episode of the ongoing warfare between players and board goes back at least that far), they might have got the board to pay more attention; as it is, they feel able to try to sit the players out for the series against Bangladesh.
 
The players deserve a decent wage. The are the centre of a multi-million pound business - and yet often get the least money.

At the same time, with all the 20-20 stuff going on and the increasing potential for breakaway leagues - players who get a good profile and do well in tests can get mega-bucks for a few week's work.
 
Idaho said:
The players deserve a decent wage. The are the centre of a multi-million pound business - and yet often get the least money.
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Quite, I always remember watching the baseball years ago and the presenter said 'Don't you think it's terrible, the money these guys get paid' and the expert replied 'Don't you think it's worse that someone can pay these guys that kind of money, essentially for a hobby?' - which is exactly right in my view. No matter what a sportsperson gets paid, however ludicrous and out of proportion it is, some fatcat or conglomerate of fat cats is paying them out of the interest on their ill begotten gains....
 
Jazzz said:
What's wrong with Pietersen? First innings he is out playing a shot that would look ambitious in Twenty20, and second he leaves a straight ball. I'm not sure I've seen two such sorry dismissals in test cricket.
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What was worse was his whinging after being criticized for the first wicket. Very immature from someone who has been captain and makes him come across like he isn't playing for the team. Like the mirror image of Geoffrey Boycott.
 
He fucked up twice - the team got him out of trouble. He owes them. He needs be given the chance to pay them back - but if he's still playing silly buggers after this test then he goes. IMO - no matter how good he is. And not dropped with a wink that you'll be back because we know how good you are but with a clear warning that you're not coming back except on our terms. That he could justioy his innings in the paper is disgusting.
 
butchersapron said:
He fucked up twice - the team got him out of trouble. He owes them. He needs be given the chance to pay them back - but if he's still playing silly buggers after this test then he goes. IMO - no matter how good he is. And not dropped with a wink that you'll be back because we know how good you are but with a clear warning that you're not coming back except on our terms. That he could justioy his innings in the paper is disgusting.
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I'm coming round to that pov, sadly.

Strange that he defends the shot to the cameras and the press, after clearly facepalming on the balcony after the dismissal. Was he actually thinking 'prat' or did he just realise he'd left the oven on?
 
1927 said:
Been confimed that Swalec Stadium will have a ODI next season, Australia. In 2011 they have a test match, Sri Lanka, and a ODI.
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Another one day series against the Aussies? We're playing seven against them this year after the proper cricket's finished!! Just a little bit of overkill :rolleyes:
 
butchersapron said:
He fucked up twice - the team got him out of trouble. He owes them. He needs be given the chance to pay them back - but if he's still playing silly buggers after this test then he goes. IMO - no matter how good he is. And not dropped with a wink that you'll be back because we know how good you are but with a clear warning that you're not coming back except on our terms. That he could justioy his innings in the paper is disgusting.
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Ridiculous. Dropping the best player? Utter bunkum.

What is kp meant to do? Apologize to the nation wearing nothing but a hair shirt. I really like kp's fuck you lot approach.

Kp owes England nothing.
 
Relahni said:
Ridiculous. Dropping the best player? Utter bunkum.

What is kp meant to do? Apologize to the nation wearing nothing but a hair shirt. I really like kp's fuck you lot approach.

Kp owes England nothing.
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I suggested dropping him if he carries on down this path. What is he meant to do? Play for the team rather than himself, if he can't then off he goes. Like what you like.

What's wrong with dropping the beat player to get a better team balance anyway? Is this beyond the bounds of possibility? Is it madness - has it never happened?
 
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