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The Ashes 2009

He fucked up twice - the team got him out of trouble. He owes them. He needs be given the chance to pay them back - but if he's still playing silly buggers after this test then he goes. IMO - no matter how good he is. And not dropped with a wink that you'll be back because we know how good you are but with a clear warning that you're not coming back except on our terms. That he could justioy his innings in the paper is disgusting.

In the 1st innings everyone else fucked up worse than him...
 
supposed to be a team game.KP is a wanker to think the world revolves around him when it clearly revolves around Australia:p

:D

Kp is quality. He's up his arse, so what? If I was that good, I would be too.

Don't see the logic of dropping him when he's been one of our best players in a test match where he wasn't so good.

When he, flintoff and collingwood play at top form, I think we'll make ricky ponting cry again.
 
That he could justioy his innings in the paper is disgusting.

This was the worst bit for me. He was interviewed on the telly after the first day's play and refused to admit that he'd fucked up. It's a sweep shot, I play it all the time, I get runs playing it, I'm gonna keep playing it, fuck you I'm Kevin Pietersen and I can do what I want.

No mate, it wasn't a sweep shot it was a fucking awful sweep shot and one you clearly decided to play before the ball had left the bowler's hand which allowed him to change his delivery enough to get you out. Schoolboys know better than to do that ffs.
 
This was the worst bit for me. He was interviewed on the telly after the first day's play and refused to admit that he'd fucked up. It's a sweep shot, I play it all the time, I get runs playing it, I'm gonna keep playing it, fuck you I'm Kevin Pietersen and I can do what I want.

No mate, it wasn't a sweep shot it was a fucking awful sweep shot and one you clearly decided to play before the ball had left the bowler's hand which allowed him to change his delivery enough to get you out. Schoolboys know better than to do that ffs.

Seriously, this is shit.

Why should he apologize to some no mark journalist? He doesn't need to. I'm really happy with his fuck you response. He did his best. Facing the Aussies is a lot more difficult than sitting on your arse moaning, whinging and writing it all down.
 
Seriously, this is shit.

Why should he apologize to some no mark journalist? He doesn't need to. I'm really happy with his fuck you response. He did his best. Facing the Aussies is a lot more difficult than sitting on your arse moaning, whinging and writing it all down.

Agreed, why would you admit you were wrong when the aussies are watching to? Plus he might feel more restricted in the near future if he admitted it.
 
I don't have a problem with a talented player who is playing well, scoring runs and helping the team, being dismissive of criticism. However when that player fails to perform for an extended period of time, I expect a bit more humility.
 
I don't have a problem with a talented player who is playing well, scoring runs and helping the team, being dismissive of criticism. However when that player fails to perform for an extended period of time, I expect a bit more humility.

So who was England's top scoring batsman in the first innings?

There was others who were more deserving of criticism IMO.

People want perfection and moan when they don't get it. Except for myself, no-one is perfect.
 
It doesn't matter how talented KP is, if he can't string it together enough when it counts he should be dropped asap.

Graeme Hick and Mark Ramprakash were both the best players ever and yet got dropped 3,439,943 times from the test team because they kept being shit in test matches.
 
So who was England's top scoring batsman in the first innings?

There was others who were more deserving of criticism IMO.

People want perfection and moan when they don't get it. Except for myself, no-one is perfect.

No, people don't want perfection They want extended application of skills.
 
It doesn't matter how talented KP is, if he can't string it together enough when it counts he should be dropped asap.

Graeme Hick and Mark Ramprakash were both the best players ever and yet got dropped 3,439,943 times from the test team because they kept being shit in test matches.

Neither of them had a record in test matches anywhere near KP's.

For both of them a 69 would have a been an exception rather than a frustration

Hick averaged 32 with 6 hundreds
Ramps averaged 27 with 2 hundreds
Pieterson averages 50 with 16 hundreds from the same amount of games as Ramprakash played.

I don't like Pieterson, but to blame him alone for the performance in the last match is ludicrous. He is an arrogant wanker, but he's also the highest averaging England batsman and top scored in one innings...
 
Replace him with who?

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The player I personally object to is Stuart Broad. He's apparantly good at something, but no-one has actually seen the evidence of it....

He's the new Glen Mcgrath y'know.... No he's not, he's Ian Botham! No he's not he's um... Mark Ealham at best....

Last time I was volumable in my criticism of Broad he got a 5fer... Therefore my criticism is bulletproof either way.
 
Another one day series against the Aussies? We're playing seven against them this year after the proper cricket's finished!! Just a little bit of overkill :rolleyes:
It's probably Pakistan vs. Australia.

BTW, why is there always this collective blood-letting after England have a poor match? Yes, much of the criticism is deserved, but surely there are limits. Let's see how they apply themselves at Lord's before going too far.
 
It's probably Pakistan vs. Australia.

BTW, why is there always this collective blood-letting after England have a poor match? Yes, much of the criticism is deserved, but surely there are limits. Let's see how they apply themselves at Lord's before going too far.

Why do people talk about the game and players? Why not? What's the point otherwise?
 
BTW, why is there always this collective blood-letting after England have a poor match?

Yep - after following England for 40 years I know that all is well with the world when they lose. It's when they start winning i get an uneasy feeling that something is going on I don't know about :( .
 
It's probably Pakistan vs. Australia.

BTW, why is there always this collective blood-letting after England have a poor match? Yes, much of the criticism is deserved, but surely there are limits. Let's see how they apply themselves at Lord's before going too far.
They'd righty roll all over you - but there are mint tea limits. People like you are killing cricket. Let's see what the king says first if he an send us telegraph before marconi. Let's go too far.
 
It's probably Pakistan vs. Australia.

http://www.uk.cricket.org/db/FORTHCOMING/FUTURE_TOURS/2010.html

Looking into it the Future Tours Programme suggests they'll be 5 ODIs between Australia and England in June 2009, crazy stuff it would be better replaced by 2 or 3 tests then some limited overs cricket between Aus and Pak, then instead of the WI and whoever the WICB can persuade to play yet again why not play Pakistan, it'll have been 4 years since they played here and it'd be good to get them playing a lot of international cricket.
 
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