TrippyLondoner
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traditionally aussies should still have a good amount of players to come through though incase of injury, usually we don't.
The Ashes 2009
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traditionally aussies should still have a good amount of players to come through though incase of injury, usually we don't.
SpookyFrank
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especially being an English one in the test at the OvalThere is no real need to play it is there?You can give up now if you want
(some already have)
Init. If I'm Marcus Trescothick I'm sat at home thinking 'Thank fuck I don't have to play in that test match'. He's got his ashes hero stripes already, he's got his OBE, he's well out of it.
SpookyFrank
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Absolutely. It's no coincidence we turned to shit at Headingley IMO, losing Fred on the morning of day one must have really fucked their heads up
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and the fire alarm evacuation at 4am courtesy of an aussie fan
SpookyFrank
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Maybe, but then you really really don't want to be the guy that gets picked do you?
The trouble with all this talk of Ramprakash and friends parachuting in is that it must be making Ian Bell and Ravi Bopara feel about as confident as a black guy in a seventies horror movie. Chances are at least one of them will play at the Oval and unless they get to the crease knowing they can get runs, they won't
TrippyLondoner
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Maybe, but then you really really don't want to be the guy that gets picked do you?
The trouble with all this talk of Ramprakash and friends parachuting in is that it must be making Ian Bell and Ravi Bopara feel about as confident as a black guy in a seventies horror movie. Chances are at least one of them will play at the Oval and unless they get to the crease knowing they can get runs, they won't
Thing is they only have themselves to blame, they've had their chances and fucked them up. To the point when we no longer have the lead in the ashes...
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to be fair, Bell's had 2 matches and scored a half century in his only innings in the first match
Barking_Mad
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Although to be fair, he does average 41 against the Aussies.
To an extent, but I would say that it is the middle order that is most responsible for ensuring that a side doesn't get bundled out for fuck all.
Yep. And he's pretty darn handy to have at the Oval.
I'd put Ramprakash in tbh. It's a fairly desperate roll of the dice in some ways, but he deserves to be in on form - top county scorer, good against the Aussies historically, on one of his favoured wickets. He was damaged mental goods in the past by all accounts, a flighty sod prone to teenage tantrums, but he seems to have mellowed of late. Whatever happens, he'd look more convincing than that fairy Bopara.
waterloowelshy
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But on the flipside. He is useless and should never wear an England shirt ever again in his life! No bottle. No fight. Would love to know what Justin Langer's comments on Bell would have been. That would have been priceless reading!
liquidlunch
fargonebeauty
I can imagine it would be something like"Rabbit in the headlight's appearance backed up by what normally happens to said bunny"
TrippyLondoner
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I saw bopara take a catch when i was watching the news and i was like 'so fuckin what? its about what he does with the bat'. He's seriously low in confidence and needs more time at county level i reckon for now.
Bell however, well, problem is we just don't have enough back up.
liquidlunch
fargonebeauty
do you mean in the whole of the british isles you dont have a couple of plucky 22-26 year olds who could step into the breach.Recycling OLD players is fucked.For one you are keeping young talent out,two you are flying in ever decreasing circles doing that,three your not going to win the ashes so let them have a go.
As i previously stated,SACK THE MANAGEMENT.Get new blood in to run your game.Blokes like Marsh or Botham who led by example,
As i previously stated,SACK THE MANAGEMENT.Get new blood in to run your game.Blokes like Marsh or Botham who led by example,
Barking_Mad
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I hope Ramprakash is selected. I'll admit to being biased as i'm a huge fan of the bloke but when you look at his batting since 2002 there's only really one choice, especially as he's a very different play to the one that played at 32. He should have been playing for the past 6 years or so in my view.
His record overall and in the past 6 years is nothing short of astonishing and will not be repeated anytime soon, if at all.
His record overall and in the past 6 years is nothing short of astonishing and will not be repeated anytime soon, if at all.
TrippyLondoner
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Its not keeping young talent out if its a one off for this test. And if that young talent is just going to get out for 20 or less then there's not much point. And yes i do mean we don't have enough decent back up at this level, not neccesarily in talent, but mentally they wouldn't be ready. especially in such a high pressure test, unlike ramprakash, who would be ready for it as he has said himself. I hope he gets picked for this test as i'm a fan of his also.
paulhackett
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You mean like recalling a Hayden, a Langer or a Martyn? Or debuting a Hussey or a North.. that's a lot of young talent you blood..
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well it won't be hard for him to improve on his current test record, which is fucking abysmal.
I was astonished when I just found out about it. How can someone average over 100 over a first-class season and still be overlooked? Get him in while there's still time!!!!
Barking_Mad
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Different player now though.
Trott might be a good player but would the selectors want to play anyone in such a big match like that for their first test match?
He wasn't that shit at a highest level. Ramprakash has an Ashes average of 40+, against better Aussie teams, still way better than this present shower of middle order shits have or will manage. He's at the Oval, his home ground, where he's already scored over 100 (130 odd?) against the Aussies and has plenty of form, including a Bradman like average this season.
Yeah, he's a slight gamble and a bit of a short term solution. But I'd far rather put money on Ramps than fairy Bopara or lightweight Bell. If there's a case for selecting on form and suitability for the ground, then he should be a shoo-in afaic.
Yeah, he's a slight gamble and a bit of a short term solution. But I'd far rather put money on Ramps than fairy Bopara or lightweight Bell. If there's a case for selecting on form and suitability for the ground, then he should be a shoo-in afaic.
