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The Ashes 2009

I love it - its like the selectors (along with whole of the country) have finally admitted that the new breed of England cricketers will never be any good, especially in a pressure situation. So what do we do? – resort to the old heads that have long been considered to not be worthy of selection. Personally if I was Ramps or Trescothick id await the call from Geoff Miller and tell him he can shove the England team where the sun don’t shine. Id then sit back and relax and watch England lose, before going to collect my best batsman of the county championship awards at the end of the year.
 
don't want ramprakash or trescothick back thanks. ramprakash was basically the ravi bopara of 10 years ago. kept getting picked over and over and over again and failed time after time after time. he had his chance and he wasn't good enough. as it happens, Bopara has already made more test centuries than ramps ever did.
 
don't want ramprakash or trescothick back thanks. ramprakash was basically the ravi bopara of 10 years ago. kept getting picked over and over and over again and failed time after time after time. he had his chance and he wasn't good enough. as it happens, Bopara has already made more test centuries than ramps ever did.

And for Trescothick?
 
I thought Tresco's issues were mostly related to overseas, but could stand to be corrected - certainly, the Somerset chairman is suggesting he may be tempted back to Test cricket if he wasn't required to play overseas Tests.
 
I thought Tresco's issues were mostly related to overseas, but could stand to be corrected - certainly, the Somerset chairman is suggesting he may be tempted back to Test cricket if he wasn't required to play overseas Tests.

it was mainly to do with being overseas, but i think that it was also to do with the pressure of internationals as well to a lesser extent. I cant see him putting himself in a position to fail mentally after he has worked so hard to get his life back on track. The risk of falling apart just doesnt seem worth it me for one match.
 
it was mainly to do with being overseas, but i think that it was also to do with the pressure of internationals as well to a lesser extent. I cant see him putting himself in a position to fail mentally after he has worked so hard to get his life back on track. The risk of falling apart just doesnt seem worth it me for one match.

I dont think it'd be fair on the guy to throw him into an Ashes decider against a well-honed sledging unit like the aussies. I doubt his shrink would recommend it anyway.
 
if only he was so mad someone could tell him he was at taunton and he was brian lara.. maybe lead him to the wicket in blinkers?

i think if a player isn't able to tour then he shouldn't be picked (unless he's done a few tours on the trot, in which case i can understand they need a rest)
 
it was mainly to do with being overseas, but i think that it was also to do with the pressure of internationals as well to a lesser extent. I cant see him putting himself in a position to fail mentally after he has worked so hard to get his life back on track. The risk of falling apart just doesnt seem worth it me for one match.

Hard to imagine a more stressful position to put yourself in as a cricketer :eek:
 
There's a typically pithy quote from Michael Henderson "Bopara, Bell and Collingwood at Nos 3, 4 and 5 does not inspire the same confidence as, say, Cowdrey, Dexter, and Barrington. Or Vaughan, Hussain and Thorpe. Or Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb"
 
Aussies have only beaten a weaken team of ours, to bad they'll never be able to say they beat us with a fully fit flintoff and KP over the whole series. its sad we rely on two players so much though.
 
Well next test will be the last time that we'll ever have a fully -- or even partially -- fit Flintoff. So make the most of it.
 
I hope when KP comes back everyone shuts about dropping him because he gets himself out after scraping together a paltry 70 runs or something.
 
Aussies have only beaten a weaken team of ours, to bad they'll never be able to say they beat us with a fully fit flintoff and KP over the whole series. its sad we rely on two players so much though.

well we've only beaten a weakened team of theirs...
 
Has anyone seen the Justin Langer email by the way giving the Aussie coach an overview of a number of the English players. Ver insightful stuff and by the whole written very well by Langer - he sums the whole team up b saing they dont like it when things are going wrong - oh how he has been proved right there! I particulalry like his summation of Anderson as a 'Pussy' - classic! and probably very true.
 
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