The 2024 UK General Election - news, speculation and updates

[Elpenor]

Results so far seem that a rump of Tory vote has shifted to Reform. I think that may be mirrored in the SW too

These are safe Labour seats, but I would think the 2019 Tory vote was boosted by switchers from Labour. And that’s now gone to reform and not gone back to Labour

And again in Sunderland

Tory + reform combined is v close to Labour total

Labour have a problem in the red wall still?

 

[belboid]

Labour vote falls in Sunderland Central.

 

[krtek a houby]

They're knowingly voting for racists. Depressing.

Bit like when voters choose the Tories?

 

[Brixton Hatter]

People are looking for something new.

It's like reverse Corbyn.

this is what happens when Labour's offer is so weak

 

[planetgeli]

Bit like when voters choose the Tories?

More overt

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Bit like when voters choose the Tories?

No. Non-racist tories do exist. Non-racist refuckers don't.

 

[pbsmooth]

They use this as a springboard. They win some councils. The tories may recover and win back those who have switched, or they may not. We've seen the Gaullists collapse in France. It can happen. Last happened here a century ago with the Liberals being replaced by Labour.

If the polling is right, Tory + Refuck > Labour vote (and Labour vote is significantly below 2017). If the Tories continue to collapse, refuck could replace them. It's not impossible.

Significantly above 2019…
But we shall see. We need to move the country on economically and from the culture wars and then people will hopefully not be so motivated to vote with fear and hate.

 

[strung out]

Refuck plus Tory come within 400 of a safe Labour seat.

The Starmer effect.

Tories and Brexit party got more votes than Labour there at the last election, so this isn’t a new thing.

 

[weepiper]

Who is this? I think I want to see the outfit too.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What does 'move the country on economically' mean?

More opportunities for private capital to own more things?

 

[krtek a houby]

More overt

Excuse the confusion. There's other people saying it's a protest vote, so just need to clarify.

 

[belboid]

Significantly above 2019…

it really isn't though

 

[Ax^]

Are Reform voters racist?

aye like voting for the Nazis but saying

i'm not voting for Hitler because i like the man but his policy's just align with my view point

at least half are voting for reform as they cannot vote for a brown leader of the tory party

about covers it

 

[Epona]

Bit like when voters choose the Tories?

No, Reform is very very much more overtly right wing/racist/misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic

 

[DJWrongspeed]

I wouldn't feel sorry for kuensburg if her head was hanging off.

Edit, the licence payers actually, just feels tacky.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

I declare Braverman fit to work.

If she doesn't show up, she'll be sanctioned.

 

[Elpenor]

Starmer hasn’t won back the red wall.

Reform will take votes from the tories which will return some seats to Labour and reform will take a few but Tory + reform vote combined is v close to Labour in Sunderland

Conclusion: Neoliberalism isn’t working.

 

[Calamity1971]

getting really nasty on C4

Switches over
.

 

[Dystopiary]

Thanks.

I pictured something much more fun and colourful though.

 

[pbsmooth]

What does 'move the country on economically' mean?

More opportunities for private capital to own more things?

normal families feeling less poor

 

[planetgeli]

Tories and Brexit party got more votes than Labour there at the last election, so this isn’t a new thing.

Just about (2000) - and this was under the most ferocious and ridiculous media attacks on a Labour leader in my lifetime.

This is under Starmer getting a free ride.

Context.

 

[The39thStep]

Ahoy there

 

[emanymton]

Who is this? I think I want to see the outfit too.

Blyth and Ashington result, look back and they sky live feed on YouTube about 45 minutes ago.

 

[two sheds]

Starmer hasn’t won back the red wall.

Reform will take votes from the tories which will return some seats to Labour and reform will take a few but Tory + reform vote combined is v close to Labour in Sunderland

Conclusion: Neoliberalism isn’t working.

and will be replaced by ... neoliberalism

 

[spitfire]

Switches over
.

It's all calmed down now. Dorries and Campbell were being spectacularly vicious to each other.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

normal families feeling less poor

'normal families' saw wage stagnation throughout the Blair/Brown era, while the rich got ever richer. Expect more of the same.

 

[two sheds]

Ahoy there

but

made it shit-shaped?

 

[two sheds]

every one* so far 'you voted for change ... change ...'




*three so far

 

[emanymton]

Thanks.

I pictured something much more fun and colourful though.

Mock all you like I expect come the morning this will be the highlight of my night.

 

[spitfire]

Dorries now gone to spend more time with her Chardonnay.

Widdecombe subbed in.

Which kind of says a lot...

(I know it was planned for ND to fuck off for whatever reason).