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Two exit polls on Sunday night—a giant 177,000 TNS Demoscopia poll for state broadcaster TVE and another one by GAD 3 for Antena 3— suggested the Popular Party had won Spain's 2015 general election, followed by the Spanish Socialist Party (PSOE), then Podemos in third and Ciudadanos in fourth place.
As reported by a quick Google.
As reported by a quick Google.
Forgive me if I am being stupid, but it looks pretty clear cut.
Party Vote % Seats
PP 121-124
PSOE 79-83
Podemos 70-74
Ciudadanos 46-50
Party Vote % Seats
PP 121-124
PSOE 79-83
Podemos 70-74
Ciudadanos 46-50
Threshers_Flail
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Lolz
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
You're right. I'm sorry. What do you think PP's next move will be now they've won?
Nobody has won yet. WTF you on about?
I was just quoting the Two largest exit polls.
I guess they will do the same as last time if this is what the final results are.
Two Exit Polls Suggest Popular Party Has Won Spanish General Election
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Don't share it, read it.
J Ed
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ffs can you stop acting the clown
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Fuck off you thick cunt. PP aren't going to be in power and you haven't even bothered to check the news before you've staggered into the thread like an imbecile.
You've misunderstood what "win" means in this context and you are utterly clueless about the very country you constantly claim to know so much about.
Go and do a painting or something. There's nothing you can add to the thread of any use, you dimwit.
J Ed
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More elections would play well to the PP (and apparently every centre-right party in the Western world) message of 'STABILITY, MODERATION' scapegoat neoliberalism
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
It would be cruel for things to have nearly worked out so nicely, just for them to be snatched away.
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Emigration being a big factor as young Spaniards packed their bags for Berlin.
J Ed
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Yes as is the fact that the government has made it difficult for Spanish economic migrants to vote.
J Ed
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I can't see it happening tbh, there will be more elections I think
Favelado
J'adore South Shore
Would be damaging for Podemos to work with C's I think. The ground that they gave up would be held against them by some of their own supporters.
J Ed
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Yes, Podemos supporters would deal with a PSOE coalition more or less but Ciudadanos? No way.
Silva
This went well.
Wish I had written down the tosspots who claimed the post-electoral situation in Portugal was "very very complex" (it wasn't; it was the "socialists" getting a coalition with the Left Bloc and the Communists) and could only be solved by new elections, and ask them what they make of this.
very likely their consultants all learned from the same group of people. You could probably splice most pro-austerity parties speeches seamlessly.
Threshers_Flail
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Why oh why didn't Podemos form a pre-election pact with UP? Their programmes are essentially the same and Pablo et al wouldn't have had to rely on a late remontada to save the day.
J Ed
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To some extent I think it comes down to the fact that the IU were implicated in some of the same political corruption scandals as the PSOE and PP though of course not on anything like the same scale.
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Some developments this morning, nothing dramatic
(taken from Público and El País and TVE)
Rivera of Ciudadanos has said that PSOE would need to form a party with 11 parties which is something that would be bad for Spain (implicit here of course is his reconfirmation of the fact that they won't support a PSOE government) but he also said that he won't form a government with the PP either because 'nothing has changed in Spain' which is a convenient principle to take since a PP+Cs+others government is basically impossible. Instead he suggests that the best thing for Spain would be a minority PP government.
Interestingly the PP now seem to be pushing the line that more elections would be bad because they would be a cause of instability. If one austerity measure was reversed every time a centre-right politician in Spain said 'instability' over the past 24 hours all of Europe would be living under full communism. They have called for PSOE not to form a government with Podemos and to just let them govern.
How curious that Ciudadanos and PP have exactly the same message a day after the elections, it's almost as if Ciudadanos is a vehicle for sheepdogging disaffected right--wingers...
The ERC, leftist Catalan Nationalists, have said that they don't think that Podemos would ever allow a Catalan independence referendum which bodes poorly for their participation in a coalition government, something that would be essential for a PS + Podemos + Nationalists coalition.
César Luena the number 2 of the PSOE has said that the PSOE will oppose the PP forming a government. Expect lots of right-wing whining, as in Portugal.
Pablo Iglesias, well uh he tweeted a rap song late night, titled 'knocking on heavens door'
(taken from Público and El País and TVE)
Rivera of Ciudadanos has said that PSOE would need to form a party with 11 parties which is something that would be bad for Spain (implicit here of course is his reconfirmation of the fact that they won't support a PSOE government) but he also said that he won't form a government with the PP either because 'nothing has changed in Spain' which is a convenient principle to take since a PP+Cs+others government is basically impossible. Instead he suggests that the best thing for Spain would be a minority PP government.
Interestingly the PP now seem to be pushing the line that more elections would be bad because they would be a cause of instability. If one austerity measure was reversed every time a centre-right politician in Spain said 'instability' over the past 24 hours all of Europe would be living under full communism. They have called for PSOE not to form a government with Podemos and to just let them govern.
How curious that Ciudadanos and PP have exactly the same message a day after the elections, it's almost as if Ciudadanos is a vehicle for sheepdogging disaffected right--wingers...
The ERC, leftist Catalan Nationalists, have said that they don't think that Podemos would ever allow a Catalan independence referendum which bodes poorly for their participation in a coalition government, something that would be essential for a PS + Podemos + Nationalists coalition.
César Luena the number 2 of the PSOE has said that the PSOE will oppose the PP forming a government. Expect lots of right-wing whining, as in Portugal.
Pablo Iglesias, well uh he tweeted a rap song late night, titled 'knocking on heavens door'
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