Russia to stop gas supplies to Europe (1/4/22)
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Also yesterday -
www.kyivpost.com
Norwegian Gas Pipeline Opens in Poland after Russian Cut
A major new pipeline that will bring in Norwegian gas via Denmark was inaugurated in Poland on Tuesday, Sep.27, in… - Sep. 27, 2022. By AFP
www.kyivpost.com
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
How vulnerable.Also yesterday -
Norwegian Gas Pipeline Opens in Poland after Russian Cut
A major new pipeline that will bring in Norwegian gas via Denmark was inaugurated in Poland on Tuesday, Sep.27, in… - Sep. 27, 2022. By AFP
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Anyone else really want someone to light a match above the gas geyser?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
May be of use
Cid
Proper break this time
Although probably use a VPN when buying.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Thoughts on this action. Is it part of the magnificent, virile, Putin's long planned and perfectly unfolding 4D chess match? Is it more hawkish factions in the Russian leadership trying to force the hands of other parts? Is a panicked warning/demonstration they could do the same to 'live; pipelines?
I mean, obviously it's NATO's fault...
I mean, obviously it's NATO's fault...
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Would be a good idea to reduce climate change impact. Might be better though to do it from a distance though.
Supine
Newt Member
Stating the bleeding obvious. Didn’t everyone say the same? You’re not exactly an oracle about this.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
How would invading Ukraine go in a good direction, tbf?
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
Didn't claim to be an oracle. That's why I said 'some of us,' and not just me.
Yossarian
⏭️
"It was around the time that a massive Russian invasion crossed the border that I thought 'Hmm, I don't think this is going to go in a good direction...'"
RD2003
Got a really fucking shitty attitude
I suppose I'm differentiating between those who enthuse about the Ukrainian pushback with the western arms, some of whom seemed to think that it was only a matter of time before Russia turned tail, and those, like me, who said this would only make Russia and its proxies double down and take more desperate measures, which could well take us all to the brink.
One war enthusiast on here even said a short while back that the Ukrainian deployment of the HIMARs and so on was 'de-escalation at it's finest.' Oh, how some of us laughed.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Yes, I think we can all agree it's looking grim.
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
So it was Sweden.
Case closed then.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
"We were somewhere around Kyiv when the HIMARS began to take hold."
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
as it happens, I'm currently offshore Brazil installing pipelines in 2000 m of water.
I can't imagine this pipeline would be buried, you generally only trench if there are large currents and a rise of seabed scour. You could probably place a charge next to it with a pretty small remotely operated, or autonomous vehicle...which could be off the back of a large fishing trawler...I don't know anything about the Baltic fishing fleet, but presumably inside the Danish EEZ and close to the 12 mile limit, vessels of that type are quite carefully monitored.
The Baltic is quite shallow, I would have thought NATO would know pretty much the locations of any submarines.
I understand these are steel pipes with a concrete ballast coat. Repair in-situ is possible if the damage is small. I bigger rupture would be a pain to repair if the pipe has to come to the surface. I think these pipes were installed with a "J-lay" tower, there will be some interesting engineering to avoid buckling them.
Personally, I don't see either being used again. If they sit full of seawater for any period of time they will start corroding. It may well be the Russians recognising that they will never be Europe's main gas supplier again, but wanting to warn they can discretely destroy subsea infrastructure....but I'm no military strategist.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
That's brill ie you actually doing this. Would it be possible to send something ,like a drone , internally to explode, say from the Russian end or for that matter from the German end or are there other places along the pipe that it would be possible to do this?
Could examination of the pipe that was blasted reveal this ie hole blasted outward or inwards?
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but Biden did say this.
You only have to listen for a minute or so before he says that America can and will stop Nordstream2 if Russia invades Ukraine.
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
He was talking about stopping it, and not saying how. It has just been stopped. For a very long time.
He said it, and didn't do it, (till now?). he said it and if it didn't happen Putin could interpret it as a sign of weakness.
Look, I'm not saying the yanks did it. I don't know, neither does anyone else other than the agency that did do it.
But Biden said he would and it has happened.
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
hmm....you could send a PIG (pipeline inspection gauge...I only recently discovered it's an acronym). They are the standard method for internal inspection. Pigs are generally propelled by gas pressure behind them. I guess you could have a self-propelled one that would not make a measurable change in pressure at the other end, I would imagine. What an elegant method of sabotage, maybe you've solved the case.
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