Russia mobilises - consequences and reactions

[RD2003]

And we were all mightily grateful, honest. Because nobody else had any conception lol

So you still have nothing to say about it, apart from 'stupid question'. Contemptible, transparent and predictable as shit.

All I can do is repeat that if you say you don't want me to have the last word, you should stop addressing me. Paritcularly with questions which are stupid due to it already being clear what I think about such things.

Nothing would satisfy you other than me saying I was at the fucking rally myself.

 

[RD2003]

tbf most of us have be saying that to your postings since February

Would it help if I sent you a signed photo?

 

[Ax^]

can we proclaim RD the winner of this thread then ban him from the sub forum

or just give him a participation award then ban him

 

[RD2003]

can we proclaim RD the winner of this thread then ban him from the sub forum

or just give him a participation award then ban him

Ban me from the whole fucking site for all I care.

Get a petition up.

 

[gosub]

All I can say is that the holy war stuff is perturbing the staff here at bot HQ.

Great bunch of lads and lasses, but they signed up to do a job for the gaffer and he's gone off-piste.

Clearly.


which brands of washing machines are going to be venerated?

 

[steeplejack]

can we proclaim RD the winner of this thread then ban him from the sub forum

or just give him a participation award then ban him

No, he can be a pain in the arse & sneeringly condescending but it’s not enough to warrant any kind of ban.

Other opinions are allowed.

 

[Kaka Tim]

the actions of NATO and the west generally made a reaction from the dominant section of the Russian elite inevitable

this is what you keep coming back . this is your entire argument. and its bollocks. And it - at the very least - partially excuses the invasion as something they were forced to do by the inexorable logic of Russia's power relationship with the west - and that the west are therefore partly responsible for the carnage. Its like saying that the USA toppling Allende in Chile or going to war in Vietnam was an "inevitable" reaction - rather than a deliberate choice driven by their own imperialist agenda.

 

[Ax^]

Ban me from the whole fucking site for all I care.

Get a petition up.

as it would feed into your own idea of being attacked because of your own misguided view point

better to keep your around so we can call you an asshat but take away your favourite toy and ban you from new threads about Ukraine

 

[cesare]

It's impossible to consider specific examples in time post ww2 without considering the context of what happened in the middle East with Israel and Palestine

 

[Ax^]

No, he can be a pain in the arse & sneeringly condescending but it’s not enough to warrant any kind of ban.

Other opinions are allowed.

you are right he would take a banning as some sort of validation

as he is more blinkered than a carriage horse

 

[frogwoman]

Really belting out urban's greatest hits on this one tbh bloody hell

Well done everyone

 

[Ax^]

can we say RD has got Putin Happy

and shoot him for endangering the boat

 

[Pickman's model]

What?

People at debating contests don't believe in the arguments they propose, it is just an exercise to them

 

[RD2003]

this is what you keep coming back . this is your entire argument. and its bollocks. And it - at the very least - partially excuses the invasion as something they were forced to do by the inexorable logic of Russia's power relationship with the west - and that the west are therefore partly responsible for the carnage. Its like saying that the USA toppling Allende in Chile or going to war in Vietnam was an "inevitable" reaction - rather than a deliberate choice driven by their own imperialist agenda.

Acting against Chile was all part and parcel of the US attitude towards Latin America as its backyard. And I do think that due to this imperialist thinking, there was a large degree of inevitability about it. I'm sure the Russians remember these things.

Vietnam less so, being on the other side of the world. Another completely avoidable war, and akin to Russia directly invading Mauritius. Or somewhere.

 

[RD2003]

as it would feed into your own idea of being attacked because of your own misguided view point

better to keep your around so we can call you an asshat but take away your favourite toy and ban you from new threads about Ukraine

It's like being attacked with a feather duster. I can take it.

But go for the full ban.

 

[Supine]

Ignoring him doesn’t really work at the moment. Everyone is discussing him!

 

[Kaka Tim]

It was once part and parcel of being on the radical left to oppose this imperialist thinking wherever it comes from.

Well most of us are doing exactly that. You seem to struggle with it.

 

[RD2003]

Well most of us are doing exactly that. You seem to struggle with it.

You're answering part of the post that I removed, as it was done earlier (not your fault.)

 

[Rob Ray]

Ffs people put him on ignore.

 

[mojo pixy]

All I can do is repeat that if you say you don't want me to have the last word, you should stop addressing me.

Or, you could just stop. You know, not type out a pointlessly snarky, mealy-mouthed response, not click 'post reply' .. or just stick me on ignore (I'd be honoured)

Paritcularly with questions which are stupid due to it already being clear what I think about such things.

It's clear you don't care, don't condemn, and don't care to hide it, or...

Nothing would satisfy you other than me saying I was at the fucking rally myself.

...why not leave me to decide what satisfies me? A simple, sincere, thoughtful response would be fine (if you can manage it).

Failing that, since you seem keener to condemn urban75's broadly left-wing, pro-working-class, mainly socialist/anarchist postership as 'war enthusiasts' than to straight up condemn Putin's Kremlin Holy War Flag Party for the abomination it was .. well, reasonable conclusions must be drawn.

 

[The39thStep]

Broadly

 

[Ax^]

Broadly

I'm sure he is Brexiter

 

[tim]

135 post against my own 36

we are all nasty people not allowing RD to have the last word


bad Urbs ...

Bad herds

 

[existentialist]

What do you think I think about it? I tried to warn people how it would go months ago.

Somebody who doesn't want me to have the last word should refrain from asking stupid questions.

Slippery. Pretty much what a lot of people have been saying about you, so thanks for the confirmation.

 

[mojo pixy]

Broadly

Yes, it couldn't be anything else given the numbers. But not only broadly lefty, but broadly anti-war, broadly intelligent, broadly sensitive and sensible (I mean, for an internet forum!) and certainly not IMO 'war enthusiasts' .. though there are a few boys (and they are) around here who may be rather more invested in events in the ground than me, or you, or our mutual chum RD2003 .. Still doesn't make them 'enthusiasts'.

Anyway .. 'broadly'. Very

 

[mojo pixy]

So, back to poor Russian boys and men being sent off to die in the mud for the sake of Putin's ego and Russian fascists.

Apologies for my part in this ridiculous derail. No more.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Is that the Russian ruling class that all along I've considered a major part of the slow-motion build up in this war, after their robbing the country blind led to the rise of Putin (who lets them continue but acts as referee)?

Robbing Russia was why Putin is where he is. He was on on the skank from at least the end of the USSR. He is the mafia boss of the ”Sistema”.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

I'm sure he is Brexiter

The ultimate LibDem cuss.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

if that's the sort of thing that floats your boat
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Where was that photo taken? Bucha?

 

[Yossarian]

can we say RD has got Putin Happy

and shoot him for endangering the boat

Poot Happy