Russia; pariah state watch

[WouldBe]

From the Telegraph

You could seize them to prevent them being sold to raise money for the oligarchs until Russia gets the fuck out of Ukraine.

 

[ska invita]

Steve posted this on the aviation thread

This leaves them even more cut off than during the USSR.

That sounds correct to me. The isolation, physical and cultural, is going to be profund....strong North Korea vibes...the effect of this could go one of two ways now, and theres every reason to worry that its a fascistic near future that will win out

That Z thing has made my blood run cold

 

[zahir]

theres every reason to worry that its a fascistic near future that will win out

For a glimpse of it ...

 

[kebabking]

Steve posted this on the aviation thread

That sounds correct to me. The isolation, physical and cultural, is going to be profund....strong North Korea vibes...the effect of this could go one of two ways now, and theres every reason to worry that its a fascistic near future that will win out

That Z thing has made my blood run cold

A bridge already crossed?

A polity who's government proposed, and who's parliament waved through, 15 year sentences for spreading 'untruths', that switches off the internet, that demands international broadcasters play patriotic messages or be banned, that bans journalism, that invades others states, and then conscripts it's population to fight in its wars hasn't really got a long journey to undertake in order to get to fascism, has it?

 

[ska invita]

A bridge already crossed?

A polity who's government proposed, and who's parliament waved through, 15 year sentences for spreading 'untruths', that switches off the internet, that demands international broadcasters play patriotic messages or be banned, that bans journalism, that invades others states, and then conscripts it's population to fight in its wars hasn't really got a long journey to undertake in order to get to fascism, has it?

yes agreed , though i would add a degree of counterpoint to that in that Russian people are long in the tooth with dealing with State propaganda and repressive rule and many know how to navigate it and keep their heads down and read between the lines. But this next stage of being cut off makes that resistance much harder and raises the potential for it to wither into a weak minority position

 

[frogwoman]

yes agreed , though i would add a degree of counterpoint to that in that Russian people are long in the tooth with dealing with State propaganda and repressive rule and many know how to navigate it and keep their heads down and read between the lines. But this next stage of being cut off makes that resistance much harder and raises the potential for it to wither into a weak minority position

I'm really worried some of the sanctions are just going to help him in this.

 

[ska invita]

I'm really worried some of the sanctions are just going to help him in this.

aye - its why i posted it in this thread

 

[frogwoman]

Russia’s looming financial collapse — a return to 1991 or 1918?. Episode: Russia’s looming financial collapse — a return to 1991 or 1918? Podcast Republic . Media: https://pdcst.xyz/audio/1646650562/...nancial-collapse-a-return-to-1991-or-1918.mp3 . -- Sent from Podcast Republic.


Very good discussion of the sanctions here

 

[The39thStep]

But when thou doest alms, let not thy
left hand know what thy right hand doeth

 

[The39thStep]

 

[Rimbaud]

EU to commit to phasing out dependency on Russian energy

The European Union is seeking to fully phase out its dependency on Russian energy “well before 2030” to ensure the 27-nation bloc no longer faces difficult decisions about hurting their own economies in geopolitical crises like the invasion of Ukraine

www.independent.co.uk

This is very big news.

The European Commission aims to make Europe independent from Russian fossil fuels by 2030. By diversifying gas sources and speeding up roll-out of renewables, they are aiming to reduce European demand for Russian gas by 2/3 by the end of this year.

Whither Russia?

 

[platinumsage]

The Cardiff Philharmonic has cancelled an all-Tchaikovsky programme as ‘inappropriate at this time’.

 

[frogwoman]

today's pointless russophobic shite. the very worst thing you can do ffs.

Tartu university to restrict applications from Russian, Belarusian students

Russian and Belarusian citizens who do not have permission to stay in Estonia will not be able to apply to study at the University of Tartu from next academic year, following a university ruling. Those already studying may remain.

news.err.ee

 

[Plumdaff]

FFS this mindless backlash stuff is depressing.

 

[LDC]

today's pointless russophobic shite. the very worst thing you can do ffs.

Tartu university to restrict applications from Russian, Belarusian students

Russian and Belarusian citizens who do not have permission to stay in Estonia will not be able to apply to study at the University of Tartu from next academic year, following a university ruling. Those already studying may remain.

news.err.ee

Yeah stuff like this emerging is just poison, only going to fuel terrible outcomes.

 

[kebabking]

The Cardiff Philharmonic has cancelled an all-Tchaikovsky programme as ‘inappropriate at this time’.

Ridiculous, stupid, self-defeating idiocy. Moronic apparatchiks learn nothing from history.

Amusingly, I'm reading about Oleg Gordievsky - one of the triggers for him deciding to spy against the Soviet Union was a posting to Copenhagen, where he was able to listen to music that was banned in the Soviet Union, and to read books he was banned from reading in the Soviet Union...

 

[frogwoman]

The Cardiff Philharmonic has cancelled an all-Tchaikovsky programme as ‘inappropriate at this time’.

he was gay and a russian dissident.

 

[frogwoman]

There have also been some proposals from some Democrats in the US to kick out Russian students currently studying there. If that happens a lot of them will really have to fear for their lives.

 

[Serge Forward]

The Cardiff Philharmonic has cancelled an all-Tchaikovsky programme as ‘inappropriate at this time’.

By jingo! More fucking bonkers stuff.

 

[frogwoman]

«Это заглушит все антивоенные голоса в России» Западные сервисы не должны изолировать российских пользователей: это не поможет остановить войну. Заявление «Роскомсвободы». Полный текст — Meduza

Statement about the damaging impact of restricting western communication services in russia

Companies thoughtlessly hit everyone with sanctions, but they miss the mark. And they fall into the most vulnerable groups of journalists, activists and IT people who have always opposed military operations and bravely did their job. This not only destroys the trust they had in technology when they could not hope for the law, but also creates the conditions for digital darkness, which plays into the hands of aggressors who spread fakes and zombify the population.

 

[frogwoman]

 

[Raheem]

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[tim]

FFS this mindless backlash stuff is depressing.

One of my students drove from St Petersburg to London a few weeks ago. She is now getting abuse for driving a car with Russian number plates.

 

[Bingoman]

Lada have suspended it car production in Russia because they cant get the parts

 

[Dogsauce]

Are they likely to rename any dog breeds because of this shit?

 

[Pickman's model]

he was gay and a russian dissident.

Being russian means he's guilty

 

[DaveCinzano]

Everyone Russian to judgement

 

[frogwoman]

 

[High Voltage]

They'll be looking "under the beds" next, you mark my words

 

[Bingoman]

They'll be looking "under the beds" next, you mark my words

Red under the Beds I think the slogan was ?