Ministers target July 4th for reopening of England’s pubs and restaurants
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Pubs and restaurants with table service to open
Hairdressers and hotels opening. It sems almost everything except indoor gyms and swimming pools are coming back. This is a proper lifting of the lockdown.
Yeah, can eat and drink to your heart’s content and have a prime excuse for not working it off
Its going to vary from pub to pub. I'm on lots of mailing lists for pub companies (the joys of using pub wifi) and there are a few saying will need pre-booking. As I say, I'm in no rush and its not because of the virus its because the whole experience doesn't sound like what I want for the stupid money it costs. We'll see.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It’s not just pubs of course, today’s announcement reopens much of the wider hospitality industry, plus strange things such as airline lounges, and hopefully therefore real dining on flights and so that returns flying to near-normal...
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I didn't hear anything about nishing the stupid quarantine nonsense for passenger arrivals though.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
To be reviewed three weeks after it came in, so 29th June. If not entirely scrapped I reckon they will have air corridors to everywhere that is open, so maybe not the US and Canada, but Europe, Turkey and so on.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Oh and one of the exemptions to quarantine is if you travel internationally once a week or more, which most of my punters do, so they’re already buzzing around the place with impunity anyway.
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Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Its just a good job we're a Covid exporter rather than importer.
ruffneck23
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it will all be non contact check - in and boarding with talk of a token on your phone instead of a passport and having your temp taken 3 times, at check in , security and boarding .
Im not sure im allowed to say much more than that at the moment
Im not sure im allowed to say much more than that at the moment
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
That's kind of how it is right now; encouraged to do online check in, boarding pass on your phone, print your own tags from the self service machines and use the fast drop bag drops. You still need a physical passport, can't see how that could go on your phone. Currently not temperature checks at all UK airports, but that's coming. Boarding is strict; last row first and first row disembarking first, so you don't need to walk past other passengers.
But for now the onboard service is limited as hell, if hospitality can do table service, then airlines can do full (or near-as) at seat service again, rather than as now where they just dump a box of cold food on your table.
ruffneck23
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My last meeting before re-furloughed definitely stated the passport\phone token thing, although im not sure how its going to work either.
Means a shit load of work for me if i decide to stay , as we will be doing all the software side of things, and no doubt some installation of hardware ( I really dont want to go back into airports unless im travelling tbh )
Johnny Doe
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Re pubs - I wonder how many pub Landlords, particular those tied to inflexible pubco rents that continued when income didn't, might be tempted to sell beer that is no longer fresh?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Surprisingly Tory friendly title which ignores their failed aim at 22/6
Another problem may be that smaller breweries which have cut production during the lockdown will take time to crank their output back up again, and a few may go bust as well, so there might be less choice than there was before, perhaps permanently.
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The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
It'll be undrinkable by now wont it?
Johnny Doe
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I'd imagine so
Great pisstake
But you seem to be assuming that 'all'
ale drinkers are Viz 'Real Ale Twats' types 
Most normal
ones KNOW how to get out of the way at the bar when pubs are busy, IME and IMO!Xmas office party drinkers are well fucking amateur by comparison
There's a reason why I usually give up pub-drinking over the weeks immediately prior to Xmas ...
... then return Xmas Eve onwards
</Nostalgia
for when once, pubs were fully open 
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mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
Yep, this^ which is exactly why I'm a bit dubious about rushing down to my local as soon as it opens - it'll be full of fucking amateurs. But I expect I will.Great pisstake
But you seem to be assuming that 'all'
Most normal
Xmas office party drinkers are well fucking amateur by comparison
There's a reason why I usually give up pub-drinking over the weeks immediately prior to Xmas ...
... then return Xmas Eve onwards
</Nostalgia
I want to support the pub & landlord etc and I am desparate for a decent pint of Goodens Gold, and, with a bit of luck, something with mild notes of mud too.I'm going to be in trouble though. We are having a new bathroom, and I made mrs mx put it back to late July, when Wickes wanted to do it in June, so she is going to be furious if I'm off to the pub at the earliest opportunity.
I'm not quite as pessimistic as that, given what I've heard and read from friends and contacts within the trade, CAMRA, etc. A couple of brewing mates of ours are pretty clued up and have kept us updated.
(A landlord here, too -- who stresses though that Welsh pubs won't open as soon as those in England! Well known that, but still!
)They do emphasise that a fair proportion of small breweries (Wales, England, everywhere) have kept limited production going over lockdown by pushing delivery and/or pick-up service.
And because most of their pubs contacts tend to be with the most real-ale-friendly pubs anyway, they will predominantly have sales outlets appropriate to their beer.
So both brewers and independent landlords will have kept contact between each other going over lockdown.
None of the above is to say that it's all going to be happy days for pubs and brewers.
Some will undoubtedly suffer big-style, and there will be closures
But at least from what I hear, many people in the smaller-scale trade are as well prepared as they can be ...
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MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Me too, buying your drinks at the bar and paying every time seems to be a British thing but most of the bars I've been into in Europe are order at your table and pay when done.
It feel more natural to order at the bar but only because that's what I've always done, I don't see how it would be any more grief for the staff either (most of the ones I go to serve food and they bring you that), might need a couple extra staff to cope but since there are going to be a lot of unemployed (and especially unskilled unemployed) soon then more jobs is a good thing.
Full disclosure, I've never worked in a bar myself.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Last time the Q's flew in 2019, we had tickets/boarding passes on our phones, and apart from going out from Brum, we placed our passports on scanners (I fucking hate those things, If I don't take my glasses off the machine doesn't recognise me, If I do I can't read what it says on the screen) rather than handed them to someone to check.
We changed at Frankfurt and went from one end to the other without interacting with a single human being.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
ordering from the table should be less faff for the bar staff
will get rid of the daft cunts who stand at a bar and go "I'll have a pint of Guinness" and after serving it and a pint of carling
and after serving that a gin and tonic
*head implodes at the memory of it *
*Shakes fist at sky
but as someone who grew up in big wet sale pubs think it will kill the atmosphere and make working behind the jump more a chore than an slight enjoyable job
will get rid of the daft cunts who stand at a bar and go "I'll have a pint of Guinness" and after serving it and a pint of carling
and after serving that a gin and tonic
*head implodes at the memory of it *
*Shakes fist at sky
but as someone who grew up in big wet sale pubs think it will kill the atmosphere and make working behind the jump more a chore than an slight enjoyable job
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
The impression I get is that small breweries are a lot more flexible and can react to this a lot quicker.I'm not quite as pessimistic as that, given what I've heard and read from friends and contacts within the trade, CAMRA, etc. A couple of brewing mates of ours are pretty clued up and have kept us updated.
(A landlord here, too -- who stresses though that Welsh pubs won't open as soon as those in England! Well known that, but still!)
They do emphasise that a fair proportion of small breweries (Wales, England, everywhere) have kept limited production going over lockdown by pushing delivery and/or pick-up service.
And because most of their pubs contacts tend to be with the most real-ale-friendly pubs anyway, they will predominantly have sales outlets appropriate to their beer.
So both brewers and independent landlords will have kept contact between each other going over lockdown.
None of the above is to say that it's all going to be happy days for pubs and brewers.
Some will undoubtedly suffer big-style, and there will be closures
But at least from what I hear, many people in the smaller-scale trade are as well prepared as they can be ...
I did see this though
A gracious gesture with nefarious intent. Classic.
Camden Town Brewery to donate 260,000 pints of new brew to post-lockdown pubs
Camden Town Brewery has revealed that it will send more than a quarter of a million free pints of To The Pub American pale ale to its on-trade partners as they bid to resume trade after Covid-19...
morningadvertiser.co.uk
Camden will give away free beer cos they are really good guys. Or to cut out smaller breweries. Which is pretty shit. No, it's fucking disgusting.
That's a of a story about Camden, above .......
But it has reminded me that (allowing for bias!) The Morning Advertiser is a pretty damned informative trade paper.
Their general story confirming 4th July pub re-opening with 1 metre distancing is succinct and good IMO.
Also, for more details on the pub-trade-centric perspective:
Halfing distancing rules mean 145m more pints can be served
And :
Trade welcomes re-opening date, but Gov support must continue
of a story about Camden, above ....... But it has reminded me that (allowing for bias!) The Morning Advertiser is a pretty damned informative trade paper.
Their general story confirming 4th July pub re-opening with 1 metre distancing is succinct and good IMO.
Also, for more details on the pub-trade-centric perspective:
Halfing distancing rules mean 145m more pints can be served
And :
Trade welcomes re-opening date, but Gov support must continue
Blimey! I hadn't seen that one!
I wonder how much proof pubs would need to provide about how much they've had to throw down the drain?
As they always do
I seriously hate almost all large PubCos, but Enterprise Inns and Punch Taverns especially -- the way of working of those two particularly, means maximum rip-off of both their tenants/managers, and the punters
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
So, apparently I can reopen my concert hall, but I’m not allowed to have any live concerts in it.
If anyone has any ideas on this, please let me know, coz I’m all out.
If anyone has any ideas on this, please let me know, coz I’m all out.
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