Do you support pubs and venues demanding NHS Covid 'passports' (with the option to test on the door)?

[l'Otters]

I'm disabled. I know about free carers, thanks. I don't think you're actually reading what I wrote.

This isn’t a DM conversation ie what I wrote isn’t solely for your benefit.

 

[scifisam]

This isn’t a DM conversation ie what I wrote isn’t solely for your benefit.

Ooh, get you!

What you wrote about carers was completely irrelevant to the topic.

 

[l'Otters]

Ooh, get you!

What you wrote about carers was completely irrelevant to the topic.

If you say so

 

[StoneRoad]

Apologies if already posted ...
I knew I had read a beeb piece about this "test on the door" idea ...

Covid passports: Club owner's mum gives out lateral flow tests all night

Rich Gilbert says 30% of people arriving at his nightclub didn't know they needed a Covid passport.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[DaphneM]

Poll doesn't have an, 'I don't support pubs and venues being open at all' option. If they are open any restrictions will be so weak, easily evaded and indifferently enforced as to be not worth bothering with at all. And there's the false sense of security thing as well.

I'm with this

 

[editor]

Apologies if already posted ...
I knew I had read a beeb piece about this "test on the door" idea ...

Covid passports: Club owner's mum gives out lateral flow tests all night

Rich Gilbert says 30% of people arriving at his nightclub didn't know they needed a Covid passport.

www.bbc.co.uk

So it is workable then, although a ton of hassle for the club.

 

[sleaterkinney]

I had this recently when I was back in Ireland. It’s no big deal and it protects the staff too.

ETA: some pubs have Id checks, a lot of them would have bouncers, stop serving you if you were pissed etc - there isn’t a inalienable right to be able to get into any place you want.

 

[_Russ_]

there isn’t a inalienable right to be able to get into any place you want.

Apparently this concept is about as easy to grasp as infinite space

 

[Badgers]

The thirty minute thing isn't how long you're supposed to wait, it's the maximum time you should wait. After that it's likely to show a false positive.

I leave mine (seven tests a week for on the windowsill for hours sometimes and never once had a false positive.

At times when the centres were doing approx 1000 tests a day processing results it often took an hour. No false positives there either.

 

[scifisam]

I leave mine (seven tests a week for on the windowsill for hours sometimes and never once had a false positive.

At times when the centres were doing approx 1000 tests a day processing results it often took an hour. No false positives there either.

I'm just going on what the instructions say in the leaflet.

 

[_Russ_]

Strange the leaflets Ive seen all say:

A positive result can appear at any time after
20 minutes, however you should wait for the
full 30 minutes to record a negative result as
the test line (T) may take this long to appear

 

[elbows]

At least one version of the instructions I've seen says the result is void if you leave it for more than 30 minutes.

 

[Badgers]

At least one version of the instructions I've seen says the result is void if you leave it for more than 30 minutes.

Really? Never seen it during the public health training courses.

 

[elbows]

Really? Never seen it during the public health training courses.

Well its an older one that I have seen, back when you couldnt just stick it up your nose only.

It refers to 30 minutes in four different ways:

Dont eat and drink for 30 mins before test.
Once opened, start the test within 30 minutes.
Set your timer and wait 30 minutes before you read your result. A positive result can appear at any time after 20 minutes, however you should wait for the full 30 minutes to record a negative result as the test line (T) may take this long to appear.
Important: Do not leave the test to develop for longer than 30 minutes as this will make the result void.

But like I said, this is from a while back and is only one example of a test and its instructions, I am not familiar with most others:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1024894/COVID-19-self-test-throat-and-nose-instructions.pdf

 

[josef1878 2.0]

Strange the leaflets Ive seen all say:

A positive result can appear at any time after
20 minutes, however you should wait for the
full 30 minutes to record a negative result as
the test line (T) may take this long to appear

Trust me from very recent experience if it's positive you'll have two bright red lines within seconds

 

[Mation]

Clearly what we need is a form of green fluorescent protein to jab everyone with, that attaches itself selectively to the virus. Then anyone who glows under UV light can be sent packing

I do understand covid passports as a pragmatic attempt to move forward given where we are now, but I can't support the idea. Officially segregating people seems wrong to me.