It's not specially though for pubs/restaurants there are obviously practical reasons why you can't.
It's killing/seriously impairing a significant number of people. If you're not anti-mask, why not just wear the bloody thing inside. Seriously
Will you continue using a face mask after 19 July?
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prunus
Tick tock.
Everyone (bar a small proportion of people exempt on medical grounds) is expected and explicitly requested to wear one in all indoor public spaces - excepting for obvious reasons while eating/drinking - ie wear one whereever you can.
I don't go to the flicks for talking pictures much these days. If I really wanted to see one then would probably be a week day early screening.
it's not but that's not the debate. it would never be too much to ask - but we're talking about what we think is appropriate now and for the future? or you're saying we just do it forever without thinking because it's not too much to ask? doesn't make sense.
While we're in the middle of a pandemic, just wear the bloody thing. And no, it's not too much to ask except it seems for some selfish folk, it is.
Voley
Joyful and Recumbent
Social distancing at non-league level still easy. We had 50 in last Saturday.It is odd how your mind works isn't it.
I would wager that there is little difference between masks in a supermarket or at a footy match.
Supermarket is indoors but people are more spaced out (compared to footy stadiums anyway). Social distancing in shops is not always easy, but more manageable than at footy.
The main issue with the footy is the airborne transmission. Although people are outside they are not distanced and there are a lot of very busy bottlenecks through the stadium. The Delta varient is highly transmissible sadlyso if you think about thousands of people all close to each other singing, shouting etc for 90mins plus there is a lot of risk.
However most masks protect others from your plague but won't protect youso if you are in among thousands of maskless people you kind of ask what is the point
Both places have a LOT of touch points but a bit of hand gel and social distancing negates most of that.
That ^ is the logic
that's simply not true. think that was advice from 2020?
current advice:
From 19 July 2021, there is no longer a legal requirement to wear face coverings in indoor settings or on public transport.
Lifting restrictions does not mean the risks from COVID-19 have disappeared, but at this new phase of the pandemic response we are moving to an approach that enables personal risk-based judgments.
While no situation is risk free, there are actions we can take to protect ourselves and others around us.
We expect and recommend that members of the public continue to wear face coverings in crowded and enclosed spaces where you come into contact with people you don’t normally meet. For example, on public transport.
You should use your judgement in deciding where you should wear one. Businesses, including transport operators, can also ask their employees and customers to wear face coverings. You should check with operators of services, venues, and settings that you use.
They have a good record so far
l'Otters
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Seems like the problem some have is with the thinking.
Don’t know about you but I’ve been educating myself about methods to mitigate virus transmission, and keeping an eye on the stats; positivity rates, cases, hospitalisation, deaths, variously at local / national / global levels. Which informs my decision making as to what I’ll do and when I’ll wear a mask.
prunus
Tick tock.
No you're not. Legal requirement and government advice are not the same thing. It's no longer a legal requirement, correct, but current government advice is:
Wear a face covering
COVID-19 spreads through the air by droplets and aerosols that are exhaled from the nose and mouth of an infected person. You should wear face coverings in crowded and enclosed areas where you come into contact with people you do not usually meet.
Coronavirus: how to stay safe and help prevent the spread
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
I think I will wait till it’s on TV. Not got any days off left.
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
Are you a Tory cunt or something?
my post was from the same website
seems some people can't take an opinion that disagrees with their own on a forum thread asking for people's opinions. so I will bow out on this one.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I don't think it says anywhere that we HAVE to agree with those opinions.my post was from the same website
seems some people can't take an opinion that disagrees with their own on a forum thread asking for people's opinions. so I will bow out on this one.
And you've been on Urban long enough to realise roughly which way the wind is blowing...you were always going to get some pushback on your position re masks.
prunus
Tick tock.
my post was from the same website
seems some people can't take an opinion that disagrees with their own on a forum thread asking for people's opinions. so I will bow out on this one.
What the government is advising isn’t a matter of opinion… it is simply what it is advising. Which is wearing face masks.
I would note also that in all the venues (shops, theatres, cinemas and so on) I’ve been in there have been notices up with variations along the lines of “please think about our staff and other customers and wear a face covering for their safety”. What it appears that large numbers of people are doing is thinking about the staff and other customers and their safety, and thinking “nah, fuck ‘em”. I don’t want to be part of that.
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prunus
Tick tock.
When the pandemic will 'end' is a knotty one, because it's fairly clear that it (the virus) is not going away. However I would suggest that it's probably not a time like now, when we are detecting a million new cases every month; not a time like now when something like 2% of the population is every month catching a virus that can kill, or cause long-term (and as yet not entirely quantified) damage to multiple organs, including the brain and heart; not a time like now when it is unlikely that it has fully explored its potential mutation domain and may well (and in my semi-informed geneticist's opinion is likely to) if given the opportunity evolve further to become fitter and more virulant, which will take a while for us to develop variant vaccines against.
If you forced me to pick a timeframe, I would estimate 30 months from now (ie after the 23/24 northern hemisphere winter season).
Also - you mention flu and "like we did before, which didn't involve masks" - I will probably forevermore wear a mask in public places whenever I have a respiratory infection and have to go out, like is common practice in much of Asia, a practice that was triggered there largely by the first SARS epidemic and the subsequent public health lessons learnt. Surely we're not so stupid as to fail to learn the same lesson?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
If, by "we", you mean British society at large, then I fear you are wrong - we will fail to learn the same lesson.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Thing is though, those pub toilets are likely small and not well ventilated and perhaps a particularly risky place.
Not picking on you, but people are completely crazy about where they do and don't wear masks I think. At least 50% of people are wearing them in the giant supermarket near me which is probably not that risky given the size of the place and airflow and lack of crowding, but barely anyone wears one in the little crowded local shop or on the bus and train.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Today, went to greengrocer and looking through the window, no masks, then across the road to the fishmonger and again no masks. Frau Bahn and I took our cues from both and followed suit. The around the corner to Waitrose and we both masked up before we’d even thought about it. 90% of punters and 70% of staff masked up.
That’s the mask report from Southwest Surrey today.
That’s the mask report from Southwest Surrey today.
See I guess i just find it strange that folk decide to wear a mask or not according to what other people are doing. (And it would surely anyway make more sense to wear one in places other people aren't if you're not going to wear one consistently
.)Makes me think of when I was a teenager and I'd do the whole 'well everyone else does X!' to my parents. And they'd invariably say 'if they jumped out a window, would you do that too?
(Not having a go at you specifically, Bahnhof Strasse, just musing really.)
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
See I guess i just find it strange that folk decide to wear a mask or not according to what other people are doing. (And it would surely anyway make more sense to wear one in places other people aren't if you're not going to wear one consistently
Makes me think of when I was a teenager and I'd do the whole 'well everyone else does X!' to my parents. And they'd invariably say 'if they jumped out a window, would you do that too?
(Not having a go at you specifically, Bahnhof Strasse, just musing really.)
Just feel daft being the odd one out. Went on a school field trip when I was 9, the kit-list said cords not jeans as jeans take ages to dry out. Guess which prick was the only one in cords…? It’s that kind of thing…
Yeah but you're not nine anymore...
Anyway, if you've got a mask on, no-one'll know who you are anyway....
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
i really don’t identify with not wanting to stand out! i find that a desirable thing!
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
I’ve started getting a bit lax of the mask wearing. I’m double jabbed and when I caught Covid (within the last few weeks) I apparently spread it to nobody. But yeah, I should continue.
