ITALY vs England
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
But when Ian Rush played in Italy, his wife said the bread tasted funny.Last season Pirlo completed more passes than any other player in the history of Italian football
revol68
what, fucking what?
Yeah the flatness of the midfield really does mean the only ball is to the flanks and as England dropped deeper, Young and Milner got forced back by Italy's wing backs.
Bringing on Carroll for Welbeck suggested that Roy was happy enough with that and try and steal a goal.
Shameful way for a nation that hosts one of the best leagues in the world to be playing.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Will John Terry turn up at the semis in his England kit?
Gingerman
Is a great bunch of lads.....
It was like living in a foreign countryBut when Ian Rush played in Italy, his wife said the bread tasted funny.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
In fairness to Hodgson, he wasn't dealt a great hand with this group of players. I'll be interested to see what conclusions he draws from the whole experience. Since the problems are so widespread it's going to be a bitch to fix.
smmudge
i know the smudge is true
Yep, England are rubbish. But I didn't really choose to support them, I got ambushed by Euro '96 as a 13 year old
omg tell me about it!! I didn't realise until recently how strange it was that I can still name the entire team of the Euro 96 squad, but only half of 98 and barely any of 00, 02, 04, 06 etcetc.
savoloysam
Ready to move into the light
The current crop have nothing on the euro 96 bunch.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
I was thinking about the extra-time against Germany in that tournament. Maybe my mind is playing tricks on me, but I remember us being all over them, and really going for it (that famous Gascoigne chance is in extra-time). A long way from this evening...
Gingerman
Is a great bunch of lads.....
To be fair to Roy he got England out of the group and realistically that was all that was asked for and expected,he'll be given some leyway for the simple fact that he's only been in the job for 2 months,once the WC qualifiers start the honeymoon period will be over.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Yes. It's a difficult job though.
We have to play a higher line - which means ditching Terry. We have to press teams in possession higher up the pitch - which means ditching Parker and Gerrard. We have to use the ball more intelligently, certainly in the centre, and really out wide too (I mean we ditched Joe Cole for giving the ball away too easily years back, but Ashley Young makes him look like fucking Xavi).
Big egos to off, and big problems to fix.
smmudge
i know the smudge is true
Yeah I don't remember much of the tournament but I'm sure you're right
(I was a bit younger than you)In my memory, it was fairly end to end. Unlike tonight, especially the last 15 minutes.
Gingerman
Is a great bunch of lads.....
Ah well at least we can enjoy the rest of the tournament without the stress of wondering if England can win it, if Rooney is fit,how the hell is Milner an international, how Germany could've ripped us a new one etc,looking forward to two cracking semis comming up later this week
Gingerman
Is a great bunch of lads.....
Germany had Kuntz up frontYeah I don't remember much of the tournament but I'm sure you're right
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Kuntz
Will John Terry turn up at the semis in his England kit?
Terry was outstanding tonight
England's best player
smmudge
i know the smudge is true
Yeah, I was 9 at the time. But I do recall thinking: "Kuntz? What's so funny about that?"
smmudge
i know the smudge is true
Apparently Joe Hart made the most completed passes for England tonight.
LOL WTF
According to uefa's castrol index he has been our best all tournament.
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/statistics/castroledge/ranking/index.html
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Deeply mediocre player, amazing really that he finished up on the winning team that night, considering England's strike force was Shearer and Sheringham.
Gingerman
Is a great bunch of lads.....
Only memorable for his surname really
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
I was 13, I remember him wellOnly memorable for his surname really
Amazingly the playmaker in that German side was Mehmet Scholl
free spirit
more tea vicar?
I wonder what defoe's thinking tonight.
I'm not sure trying to use Carroll to batter his way through was the right tactic here, whereas an attacking formation on the break of Defoe, Rooney, young and boy wonder plus Gerrard would have been a pretty scary prospect on the break an hour into the game.
I'm not sure trying to use Carroll to batter his way through was the right tactic here, whereas an attacking formation on the break of Defoe, Rooney, young and boy wonder plus Gerrard would have been a pretty scary prospect on the break an hour into the game.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
Amazing given the amount of money in the English game.Again, based on twitter so don't know the veracity of it, but someone posted about the number of qualified coaches in some countries. Said something like Germany 35,000, Italy 29,000; Spain 24,000; England 3,000.
The shame is that most of the money is in the premier league and most of it goes to the players. Whilst they deserve the lion's share, I don't think enough goes to the grassroots game in the country.
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
I think the way we were set up, we were always going to end up camped in our half, watching the Italians pass it in front of us. We didn't use the ball very well on the counter-attack but I don't think Defoe rather than Carroll would've made the difference.
