ITALY vs England

[Maltin]

I dont have one.

You're nation less?

 

[revol68]

You're nation less?

well not technically, I actually have two but they can frankly fuck off.

 

[savoloysam]

The Netherlands has a population of 16 million you clown.

Northern Ireland 1.5 million.

All you've done is show how shit England are in comparison to the Dutch, and yes I know the Dutch have never won a world cup but then neither have England, it was gifted to them by a Russian linesman.

That's not what it says on the trophy and all you have done is displayed why you're country is such a shit hole to live in.

 

[Lo Siento.]

The Netherlands has a population of 16 million you clown.

Northern Ireland 1.5 million.

All you've done is show how shit England are in comparison to the Dutch, and yes I know the Dutch have never won a world cup but then neither have England, it was gifted to them by a Russian linesman.

Yep, England are rubbish. But I didn't really choose to support them, I got ambushed by Euro '96 as a 13 year old

 

[revol68]

That's not what it says on the trophy and all you have done is displayed why you're country is such a shit hole to live in.

Ironically the English played quite a role in that too.

 

[Fedayn]

 

[twistedAM]

I don't get the fuss over this Pirlo, he can't run, tackle or get into the box, you can't have a passenger like him in midfield...

is your tongue hurting your cheek?
Spot on about Parker though. No idea why he didn't put Milner in there. Missed Barry big time.

 

[savoloysam]

Ironically the English played quite a role in that too.

I agree with you there.

 

[savoloysam]

Did Andy Carroll swap shirts with their number 6?

 

[revol68]

anyway england out, time for my portugeezers to beat the smug Spanish.

 

[Maltin]

I dont support any national team, but i loathe the english cos they actually know fuck all about football. all your best managers are fucking scottish.

What do you mean all of our best manager's are Scottish? Do you mean in the Premier League? How many of the top five teams in England's managers are Scottish?

 

[Maltin]

207 nations to impotently rail against.

Someone get this man a nation. My heart is breaking just looking at his posts.

It's 209 now but still a bizarre claim.

 

[Lo Siento.]

good on Italy, btw. For all England's limitations I thought the Italians were excellent - they worked incredibly hard closing the ball down, were first to every second ball, defended stoutly when they had to and always offered an out ball for each other (ironically all the things that the hoary old England myths say that English players are supposed to do)

 

[revol68]

What do you mean all of our best manager's are Scottish? Do you mean in the Premier League? How many of the top five teams in England's managers are Scottish?

I mean historically and even those who were "English" were from the North, so less cuntish.

 

[revol68]

good on Italy, btw. For all England's limitations I thought the Italians were excellent - they worked incredibly hard closing the ball down, were first to every second ball, defended stoutly when they had to and always offered an out ball for each other (ironically all the things that the hoary old England myths say that English players are supposed to do)

Yep, which is because the Italians had the wit not to give the ball away as cheaply and then spend the next 10 mins chasing shadows.

 

[twentythreedom]

lol @ revol68, not a single nation wants him as a supporter

 

[revol68]

lol @ revol68, not a single nation wants him as a supporter

Quite a badge of honour that.

 

[twentythreedom]

syria need friends atm revol

 

[twentythreedom]

Quite a badge of honour that.

yeah for 200+ nations it is

 

[revol68]

syria need friends atm revol

and they showed the turks they don't fuck about with ariel threats

 

[Wilf]

Quite a badge of honour that.

At least I know I'll always have somewhere I can sit in a town square with a group of accountants drinking overpriced lager and my face painted. You'll never have that.

 

[Maltin]

Also you might not have noticed but Northern Ireland beat Spain in Valencia back in 82, which considering how small a place it is, is a higher achievement than England have ever managed.

So until a nation reaches a population of 1.8 billion, England can never match the feat of Northern Ireland

 

[revol68]

So until a nation reaches a population of 1.8 billion, England can never match the feat of Northern Ireland

that would suggest that it's an empirical matter rather than an apriori truth.

 

[Maltin]

it was gifted to them by a Russian linesman.

Azerbaijani

 

[revol68]

Azerbaijani

Greater Russia!

 

[Wilf]

that would suggest that it's an empirical matter rather than an apriori truth.

When 4-4-2 fails, the logicians come to the party (Cantona, 1997, p. 7).

 

[revol68]

there's 4-4-2 and then there's 4-4-2's and England's was like a parody.

don't understand why they didn't go with a 433/451 then they might have held onto the ball a bit better whilst freeing Young and Walcott for more attacking roles.

 

[Gingerman]

Last season Pirlo completed more passes than any other player in the history of Italian football

 

[Lo Siento.]

Yep, which is because the Italians had the wit not to give the ball away as cheaply and then spend the next 10 mins chasing shadows.

Well, partly. Actually I think England's possession issues are more related to how they set themselves up on the pitch. Yes, there were a dozen or so brainless concessions of possession under no pressure whatsoever. But for me the main issue is that if you set yourselves up as two rigid banks of four, defending the 18 yard line, firstly the other team has a lot of space to keep the ball in, and secondly, even if you do get it back, the person getting the ball back has no obvious, easy out ball and the out ball that he does have is likely to be heavily marked.

There were times when England showed that they could pass the ball higher up the pitch, in fact for the first 15 minutes England pressed higher up the pitch, forced the Italians to make a few errors, and were able to keep the ball for sustained periods as a result. Then they ceded possession and territory, set themselves up to win on the counter or from a set-pieces and looked rubbish as a result.

 

[revol68]

Last season Pirlo completed more passes than any other player in the history of Italian football

Even Berlusconi?