England vs Ukraine
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belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
they are tho - just. England 75-40,Italy 72-40
They're both middling teams, with a couple of stars, who struggled to bet other middling teams. Whoever wins will lose to Greece in the semi
Kanda
Diving wanker
Rooney been yellow carded ONCE all season. Not likely.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
That just means he's due 
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
hoping more people lump on Rooney yellow cards again, so I can lay against it and make more money like last night
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Ballotelli vs Rooney - its the battle of the loose cannons isn't it?
BTW- Ignore the odds from the bookmakers - England are only favourites because lost of bets are placed on England to win and the bookies are covering themselves. Sensible head says Italy are the more likely to win.
BTW- Ignore the odds from the bookmakers - England are only favourites because lost of bets are placed on England to win and the bookies are covering themselves. Sensible head says Italy are the more likely to win.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
IT does annoy this constant carping that England are shit. Sure Germany and Spain are better - but its like slagging off Everton becasue they never get in the champions league. England are doing pretty well with what they've got - Sven and Capello had arguably better squads and they underperformed.
The next match could be Rooneys last chance to turn up for England though. Maybe scoring his sitter will relax him now - cos i dont think he deals well with the wieght of expectation and I'm suprsied that Hodgson (and others) have been pileing it on him. Sven did the same in 2006 and he couldn't handle it.
Good to see Gerrard turning it on though.
The next match could be Rooneys last chance to turn up for England though. Maybe scoring his sitter will relax him now - cos i dont think he deals well with the wieght of expectation and I'm suprsied that Hodgson (and others) have been pileing it on him. Sven did the same in 2006 and he couldn't handle it.
Good to see Gerrard turning it on though.
Joe Reilly
Well-Known Member
That's right. At 26 all he's got in the locker is a League Cup winners medal, 29 goals and 13 assists for England, 4 Premiership titles, Footballer of the year, the 4th ever highest scorer for Man Utd, Champion's League winner...imagine what he could have achieved if he didn't buckle?
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Well the (harldy controversial) point is that he hasn't translated his Man utd form into performances for England - other than the Euros in 2004. At the two subsequent world cups he was wound up and frustrated and - to be frank - acted like a cunt.
Simarlaly, Cantona never really did it for France either. Maybe its a Man United thing?
The Octagon
Stop...Hammertime
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
All single yellows wiped now.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I'm sure I heard it was after the group stages. Can't seem to find anything saying for sure.
Looking on the internet, the Daily Fail says group stages, the BBC quarter finals.
Looking on the internet, the Daily Fail says group stages, the BBC quarter finals.
That would be bollocks really given how easy it is to get carded, some of the yellows dished out last night were so soft.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
It's arguable he has nowhere near the pressure on him at Man Utd than he does for England. Much like Ronaldo at Real Madrid, at his club he's generally had a few star players to share the expectation and workload (although last season might be tricky to argue for...
), whereas for his country everyone expects him to be as influential as Maradona in '86 (it was '86, right? All the tournaments pre-'94 are a bit of a mish-mash for me 
).I meant to say before the game*, he rarely comes back after a break on form straight away. Hopefully last night got some of the cobwebs out and he'll turn up a bit more for Italy. What I would say was encouraging was at least he was getting the chances to miss, he wasn't totally AWOL and anonymous.
*honest, honest I did!
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I quite like it if it is the case. Nobody can miss the final for a soft card in the semis.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It's a mixed blessing. A few teams could be missing a lot of key players for the semis.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
According to Wiki (I know, was trying to find the official UEFA rules but this came up first and I'm lazy):
For the record, the England players carrying yellow cards into the QF with Italy - Gerrard, Cole, Oxlaide-Chamberlain, Milner and Young.
http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/download/competitions/euro/91/87/57/918757_download.pdf
Although this doesn't answer the question of if a yellow is carried from the semi to the final.
According to Wiki (I know, was trying to find the official UEFA rules but this came up first and I'm lazy
For the record, the England players carrying yellow cards into the QF with Italy - Gerrard, Cole, Oxlaide-Chamberlain, Milner and Young.
Cole and Gerrard would be the real worries here, the others have adequate replacements. Although Baines is a decent understudy for Cole.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
What do you mean? You are only suspended after 2 yellows. Basically, if you play in the semis, you will only miss the final if you're sent off.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Good analysis from Zonal Marking as ever, including what one might suspect is a little dig at Captain G:
deadringer
meat pie sausage roll
Not to mention he wasn't fast enough to prevent a goal, we just got lucky with the ref / lino
Not sure you can lay that one at his door, no one else came close to getting it, I'm impressed he not only got to it considering how far back he started, but managed to hook it away and not into the roof of the net! p
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