Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Well, exactly. Unless they did a Pirlo and fucked it up
Didn't Crouch try that once when he was at Liverpool and hit the bar
ITALY vs England
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Didn't Crouch try that once when he was at Liverpool and hit the bar
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Let's face it, had England opne it would have been a travesty of justice. Italy were all over em
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
No it wouldn't. Both sides created openings, but neither was good enough on the day to score. Italy were not unlucky not to score - they didn't score because their finishing was awful on the day. They created more chances, but they couldn't finish. tbh it would have served Italy right to have lost - it would have made them pay for their inability to finish.
italy weren't exactly fantastico themselves..
I do question roy's judgement in changing a winning team to accommodate rooney tho. and as an article i read earlier pointed out, why the hell was he travelling to and from the matches in ukraine when he could've been spending the time working on his conditioning..? he looked utterly fucked after 15 minutes last night.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
In the game I saw, Italy were pretty dominant, in possession terms
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
As ever, he was caught behind the press. Drop Rooney and lose, and your career's over before it even started. Play Rooney and lose, while people will question and wonder, they generally still won't call for your head.
Frustrating, but true.
In the game I saw, Italy were pretty dominant, in possession terms
If football was decided on points the score would have been 100 - 0.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Doesn't mean they deserved to win. And possession isn't an end in itself. Italy created a fair bit last night, but were let down by their finishing. Spain on Saturday created hardly anything with their possession. You can have most of the possession and still deserve to lose.In the game I saw, Italy were pretty dominant, in possession terms
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Last ditch blocks from defenders count too, no?
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
It's a bit of a stretch to say they changed a winning team tbh. They won one and drew one without Rooney, and did the same with him in the team (penalties excepted) so it's not like they were on a massive roll of victories beforehand. I don't really see that it's the press either - he's clearly a better player than Andy Carroll surely?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
He couldn't hold onto the ball, but if he'd been playing in Pirlo's place in the Italy team, he'd have had options when he looked up. I thought Rooney was very ineffective last night, but I'm not sure how much that was down to the rest of the team too.
OK then. 96 - 4.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I don't agree. First half hour, I thought both teams were incisive going forward and it could easily have been about 2-2. After that, Italy started to take control, but a combination of good England defending and bad Italian finishing left the game goalless.
There's more to football than just scoring or preventing goals. Italy dominated yesterdays game and England were feeble in a way I've seldom seen at major finals.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
No there isn't.
I think there is.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
We don't know who was down as 5th. Though may well have been Hartas usual the choice of penalty takers was a bit of a mystery to me - Rooney - OK, Gerrard OK, Young - should have been ok
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
I'd definitely have Cole as a better choice than Carroll or Walcott tbh. Even now with hindsight.
Roy Keane knows his stuff. England are shit and often play like cowardly schoolboys. That's just the way it is.
not-bono-ever
meh
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
apparently a bit of a kerfuffle in Bedford following last nights game.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Roberto Mancini stirring it 
http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2...wayne-rooney-manchester-city-roberto-mancini/
http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2...wayne-rooney-manchester-city-roberto-mancini/
