goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
That's exactly what I was just thinking.
ITALY vs England
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That's exactly what I was just thinking.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-18576404
Bedford - that reknowned centre of footballing excellence - make the Italians pay
Twats
TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
Meatheads and alcohol. A superb combination.
tommers
Busta Rhymes is an unstoppable movement
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
typical 'we wos robbed' reactionhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-18576404
Bedford - that reknowned centre of footballing excellence - make the Italians pay
Twats
pathetic
purves grundy
ambient clown remix
stayed up til 4am watching this 
knackered today and loads of work to do but a head too fuzzy to do it... AND FOR WHAT??? WHAT DID I GET OUT OF IT???
knackered today and loads of work to do but a head too fuzzy to do it... AND FOR WHAT??? WHAT DID I GET OUT OF IT???
Ted Striker
Foot's on the other hand
Not sure if it's patriotism that leans me to believe we've had our fair share of shite luck/decisions in the past, like to think this tournament levelled things up a bit. Just a shame it didn't happen whilst we had a particularly talented squad.
I still think we did 'the job' just fine against Italy. We couldn't match them for class/skill, so we did what we needed to do. It worked for Chelsea.
Also (still) think Roy was pretty ace after the game. Came across as dignified, pragmatic, intelligent and gracious. Which is 4 words you couldn't use to describe any England manager since probably Robson. It'll never last....
What does piss me off, is non-English people thinking all England fans think their team is anywhere near the best in the world. There's a shitload of blind optimism, though find me someone who doesn't see/hope the best in their team and I'll show you a dullard heartless twat. Don't get me wrong, they are (by and large) cunts, but not for talking up their national teams chances.
I'm just glad we exited the tournament punching reasonably above our weight, and not hopelessly failing to live up to the smallest of expectations.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
For about 30 seconds, or perhaps as long as a minute, between Rooney scoring and Young missing, England were in the lead. They couldn't, could they? I had not dared to imagine that they could win until that short minute. It's the hope that gets you. 
tommers
Busta Rhymes is an unstoppable movement
That's probably less than happens in Bedford on a normal Saturday night.
jiggajagga
Judge_Mental
Well they did win by 2 goals but on freakin penalties and that doesn't count! BBOOLLLLOOCCKKSS!!
editor
hiraethified
England are supposed to be the 6th best team in the world. Italy are ranked as the 12th.
That's plainly bullshit.
http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.html
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
And not really our fault...
gosub
~#
Think no one expecting anything helped their performance, though did notice BBC studio pundits discussing England's chances in the final against Spain prior to start of match against Italy
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
That was a pretty stylish penalty he took. Nerveless.
editor
hiraethified
But some England fans seem to go around believing its true and then express surprise when they're completely outclassed by a team supposedly significantly worse than them.
^^ Hart should have stood still and waited for the shot before diving for all the pens. He wasn't close to any of them anyway and would have saved Pirlo's. I don't understand why goalies commit to one side and hope the player kicks it that way as sooner or later someone will try to smack one down the middle or off centre.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
That's all very well, but I remember Seaman doing exactly this against, I think, Germany. He went the right way every time, but didn't save a single one. If Buffon hadn't guessed against Cole, he wouldn't have saved it.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
The trouble is, we get pilloried for having high expectations, but then also get attacked for our team not doing better with all the supposed resources we have. It's something I've noticed more and more, and a more than a few times in this tournament, and I don't quite understand what other fans want from us. Should we lower our expectations, or be angry that our country can't produce better?
And before we get into it, I would love for the FA to invest better and improve the structure of our grassroots system - we should be one of the leaders in the international game. But at the moment, this is the team which I am presented with, and so this is the team I support.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Actually, this is pretty much what he did for Balotelli's, the first, and he got very close to it. The others less so...
I've decided to blame Ashley Young entirely. I couldn't dislike Cashley anymore than I already do, so Young gets the ire. I've decided his attempt to smash his pen into the roof of the net is indicative of his arrogance and that we would have won if he was half as good as he thinks he is.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Actually, I think it's generally the hallmark of someone who's not confident.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yep. You could see before he started his run up that this was what he was going to do. Would have been unstoppable if it had been 10 cm lower...
Seaman was slow and getting old by the time Euro 96 came around but still our best keeper.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
You're right, I think you could see it - I actually said while he was waiting to take it, "just hit the target Ashley"
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Anyway, I don't blame any player for missing a pen. At least they had the balls to step forward and take one.
I do. Ashley Young. Arsehole.
