England vs Slovenia, 8pm (ITV)

[tommers]

I think I've got all the others figured, but would 6 be sort of yer more defensive-minded central-mid?

I'm sure 6 used to be a central defender but these days it seems to mean a more defensive midfielder.

 

[surreybrowncap]

I think I've got all the others figured, but would 6 be sort of yer more defensive-minded central-mid?

6 has been retired in honour of Bobby Moore

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

I think I've got all the others figured, but would 6 be sort of yer more defensive-minded central-mid?

1
2 --- 5 --- 4(6) --- 3
7 --- 6(4) --- 8 --- 11
10
9​

 

[tommers]

6 has been retired in honour of Bobby Moore

At West Ham it has.

 

[klang]

1
2 --- 5 --- 4(6) --- 3
7 --- 6(4) --- 8 --- 11
10
9​

Why do they not just keep them in order?

 

[tommers]

It's probably symptomatic of why we don't do very well that we have a very set definition of where each number plays.

 

[Steel Icarus]

I always found it odd that Liverpool of the late 70s/early 80s had several "wrongly numbered" positions. Most teams were

9 10
11 8 6 7
3 4 5 2
1

but Liverpool were

9 7
5 11 10 8
3 4 6 2
1

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Why do they not just keep them in order?

Used to be (kind of) in old, long defunct formations:

1

2 --- 3

4 --- 5 --- 6

8 ----- 10
7 ----- 9 ----- 11​

 

[klang]

I always found it odd that Liverpool of the late 70s/early 80s had several "wrongly numbered" positions. Most teams were

9 10
11 8 6 7
3 4 5 2
1

but Liverpool were

9 7
5 11 10 8
3 4 6 2
1

One doesn't look righter to me than the other one.

 

[Lord Camomile]

6 is what we'd have in central defence. 4 is the holding midfielder

I'm sure 6 used to be a central defender but these days it seems to mean a more defensive midfielder.

Hm, that rings a vague bell, but seems kinda daft to me.

I was already having problem with LW being #11, totally separated from the other mids

 

[surreybrowncap]

I always found it odd that Liverpool of the late 70s/early 80s had several "wrongly numbered" positions. Most teams were

9 10
11 8 6 7
3 4 5 2
1

but Liverpool were

9 7
5 11 10 8
3 4 6 2
1

Nah - that's your mam's bingo nights!

 

[klang]

Used to be (kind of) in old, long defunct formations:

1

2 --- 3

4 --- 5 --- 6

8 ----- 10
7 ----- 9 ----- 11​

Thats a bit better i guess

 

[Lord Camomile]

Used to be (kind of) in old, long defunct formations:

1

2 --- 3

4 --- 5 --- 6

8 ----- 10
7 ----- 9 ----- 11​

This is one of those things I know I've looked through in the past, but it's clearly not stuck.

Shoulda read more of that Jonathan Wilson book on my shelves.

 

[Steel Icarus]

The Dutch did their squad numbers alphabetically in 1974 (except Cruyff, who insisted on 14, the massive primadonna)

 

[Lord Camomile]

He was a big Henry fan, I take it?

 

[blairsh]

The Dutch did their squad numbers alphabetically in 1974 (except Cruyff, who insisted on 14, the massive primadonna)

Was never one for taking his turn, Cruyff...

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

This is one of those things I know I've looked through in the past, but it's clearly not stuck.

Shoulda read more of that Jonathan Wilson book on my shelves.

A lot of the terminology is still in use. Full-backs, centre-half, centre-forward; some of the positions have changed (left/right back, centre back, striker), but people still know the names.

 

[Petcha]

Why is this commentator shrieking so much pre match? This better not go on for the full match

 

[Maggot]

Got me worried there... thought it was Gallagher and Lyle..
No one wants that...

Err, that's the joke.

 

[starfish]

So is this all about the performance then & not the result.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Anthem watch: a NEW WORLD RECORD for vocals furthest behind the band. Stellar stuff there, England fans.

 

[Petcha]

He's not my 'King'. and he's certainly not gracious. Lets hope he doesn't have doctors as good as Boris had.

 

[strung out]

So is this all about the performance then & not the result.

I would like the result please, so we can avoid all the slightly less shit teams. Performance on top of that would just be an added bonus.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Slovenia ain't gonna know what hit 'em!

There's a chance they may not realise they've been hit at all

 

[hash tag]

Well, they are off

 

[Lord Camomile]

Ok, given Kane just printed the length of a half, and Foden did pretty much likewise, I take it there's been a decision to press early and often, and make it obvious?

 

[hash tag]

Early days I know but really not impressed

 

[Lord Camomile]

If that had been ahead of him, rather than just behind meaning he had to generate any power, England would have been in real trouble, there.

 

[Wilf]

Bit shit so far. I say that hoping to provoke a goal. I'm happy to look a div.

 

[two sheds]

shame palmer's not been given a chance to show himself, would have preferred him to gallagher.