ska invita
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oh god sounds like F1 has managed to make itself even more boring than it was...
This is why i genuinely like watching sunday league football...a lot happens!
England vs Slovenia, 8pm (ITV)
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This is why i genuinely like watching sunday league football...a lot happens!
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Only since pulling on that shirt imo.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Man City only scraped 96 goals in the league due to this approach.
Real club fans don’t give a fuck about England
that’s why all the flags are nomark clubs and places like Shrewsbury and Saffron Walden.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Indeed, still as boring as fuck to watch for 90% of the time as they pass it around the back and forward and back again waiting for one of the defenders to get out of position.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
One game?
Voley
🐀
No ham sandwich but cheesy breadstick things, crisps and peanuts during the match. And a chocolate eclair at halftime.
May Kasahara
take me to the feeling
That sounds more exciting than the entire game
Voley
🐀
It was.That sounds more exciting than the entire game
god I hate (some...most? ) england fans
www.theguardian.com
Gareth Southgate claims England fans are creating ‘unusual environment’
Gareth Southgate talked about being in ‘an unusual environment’ after having plastic beer cups thrown at him by England fans after their draw with Slovenia
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
I find the media and a section of the fans attitude towards Southgate a bit weird. Cards on the table, I have 0 skin in this game, save a rather historical and Dublin mum derived soft spot for the Republic team I ccare little about 'a team' in International football. I watch it, I love watching football for all the joy, passion and hilarity it can bring. I do, however, find the near vilification of Southgate rather strange. Statistically, and factually speaking, (if not exciting and fast paced attacking football based) he has the second best 'record' of any England (men's) team. He is second only to Alf Ramsay, y'know the fella who managed England to win the World Cup Aye it is correct to say, I would argue that Bobby Robson, ie 1990 World Cup and Terry Venables ie Euro 96 had a more positive, 'warm fuzzy feel', uniting the support etc and getting a wider than usual hinterland of enthusiasm for the England team. But Southgate's record is, albeit a bit laid back, dare to say, a bit run of the miill, approach to regularly qualifying for the later stages of competitions. England qualified top of the table, aye, the excitement is a bit lacking, but the reaction of some elements of the support and media is funny. Some of the demands he is sacked immediately, should have been sacked after qualifying and prior the actual tournament in Germany and some of the use of 'Wokegate' as an epithet for the man himself a bit daft. The latter being a rather GB newsesque inspired epithet I reckon . Now, I have also, as has every football fan ever, gone way over the top in reactions. But this just feels a bit weird....
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
I think Southgate will out himself. This, from the main thread, is probably closer to the truth than many realise.
I'll still think he's lovely when he steps down, but I'm a bit annoyed with him. I don't think he wants to be manager any more and has made some bad/odd decisions because his head/heart isn't in it any more. I reckon it was all in the waistcoat
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
There's a massive sense of entitlement to certain sections of the England support. England are a middling team, historically. Only ever reached two major finals, one of those under Southgate, who's also reached the semis of the WC, as good as anyone other than Ramsay. (Also never reached a final not held in England.) So this is very definitely an 'up' phase for England.
They're historically an underachieving team, but with a section of fans who think they're direct rivals to Germany.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
It was a boring game. Frankly, unless England up their game significantly, they are not going much further.
They only topped their group because they won one game, as it happens the only win in the whole group!
Not sure if I'm going to watch any more of this.
There has been far too much defensive play, and not enough attacking play.
They only topped their group because they won one game, as it happens the only win in the whole group!
Not sure if I'm going to watch any more of this.
There has been far too much defensive play, and not enough attacking play.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
As a City fan I'm coming round to agreeing to this but at least we still have Ederson who is value to watch when Pep lets him play long passes (as opposed to hopeful long balls).
tommers
Busta Rhymes is an unstoppable movement
The media don't help by hyping up every single decent player and squad that we ever have.
It has the feel of the last tournament for him. It was the same with moyes, historically our best manager since lyall but large sections of the fan base were upset with "negative" tactics and boring football. Eventually that takes a toll.
There's a sneaking suspicion that these players should be doing better than they are, and that falls on the manager - rightly or wrongly.
There is also an argument that success in tournaments is not statistically that dependable. Winning a penalty shootout can determine whether you get kicked out in the quarters (boo) or get to a semi (yay). Southgate has achieved that twice though.
People look at the overall result but it often depends on a single moment or a lucky draw.
It has the feel of the last tournament for him. It was the same with moyes, historically our best manager since lyall but large sections of the fan base were upset with "negative" tactics and boring football. Eventually that takes a toll.
There's a sneaking suspicion that these players should be doing better than they are, and that falls on the manager - rightly or wrongly.
There is also an argument that success in tournaments is not statistically that dependable. Winning a penalty shootout can determine whether you get kicked out in the quarters (boo) or get to a semi (yay). Southgate has achieved that twice though.
People look at the overall result but it often depends on a single moment or a lucky draw.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
It's so disappointing for me because this is the first time in years I've thought we've got a really talented, young team. Watching them just pass it backwards and forwards seems such a fucking waste of huge amounts of talent.
It's also why I'd like to see TAA in the team - I've seen him make loads of runs up the right wing with a cross or pass in behind the defence for the attackers to do their job.
It's also why I'd like to see TAA in the team - I've seen him make loads of runs up the right wing with a cross or pass in behind the defence for the attackers to do their job.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
They were blaming the grass quite a lot last night actually
starfish
No dialogue. Just plot.
We gave up after 30 minutes and watched Bake Off the Professionals instead which i was recording.No ham sandwich but cheesy breadstick things, crisps and peanuts during the match. And a chocolate eclair at halftime.
Edited on case of spoiler
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It's not helped by the media unquestioningly parrotting myths, such as the new manager bounce, which can usually be simply explained as reversion to the mean after a clump of bad luck. Also, number of managers sacked when they have key players injured.
surreybrowncap
“Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand"
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Football matches like this are why everyone should strive to understand and follow cricket. Sure, you get a few shit cricket matches, but even in those there's usually something of interest.
ska invita
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How long is a cricket match?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
That's not an easy question to answer!
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