CRI
Registered Chooser
Antics? What a strange choice of words.
The "solidarity" often referred to here sounds more like "some pigs are more equal than others," but hey . . .
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The "solidarity" often referred to here sounds more like "some pigs are more equal than others," but hey . . .
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
great album tho
maomao
普費斯
There's nothing to elaborate. It's yet another vague smear of racism against the good people of Urban who she actually knows fuck all about. She's disgusting.
CRI
Registered Chooser
I have no idea what the fuck you're losing your shit over. If it's still about my two word "Dogwhistle, much?" post, in response to a post mentioning "Detroit" and "destruction," Christ Almighty. Fuck me, pointing out in a discussion about American politics that a phrase sounds helluva lot like phrases used as dogwhistles, in an American political context, and it's all pearl clutching and smelling salts.
Wasn't there an appeal for this thread to stay on topic, or are rules only for those pesky Americans who occasionally suggest that some here may be a tad off in their impressions of America?
Ah well, as you were.
Night night, sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite!
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Two words with a meaning. A meaning you still haven't apologised for. Really it should have happened straight away, as soon as you discovered your mistake. "Oh, I see what you mean. Sorry". That's all it would have taken. But no, you drag it on and on, compounding what may have initially just been a misunderstanding into an ongoing smear that you refuse to back down from.
I don't know why I'm bothering.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
do you think they are one homogeneous group? do you think someone is doing their PR? it could be literally anyone and you expect 20,000 people to be and act the same??
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
This is (once again) completely dishonest. You didn't "point out" anything, you made a false accusation of racism based on on your failure to read/comprehend a post. Your refusal to apologise is damning.I have no idea what the fuck you're losing your shit over. If it's still about my two word "Dogwhistle, much?" post, in response to a post mentioning "Detroit" and "destruction," Christ Almighty. Fuck me, pointing out in a discussion about American politics that a phrase sounds helluva lot like phrases used as dogwhistles, in an American political context, and it's all pearl clutching and smelling salts.
Athos
Well-Known Member
I have no idea what the fuck you're losing your shit over. If it's still about my two word "Dogwhistle, much?" post, in response to a post mentioning "Detroit" and "destruction," Christ Almighty. Fuck me, pointing out in a discussion about American politics that a phrase sounds helluva lot like phrases used as dogwhistles, in an American political context, and it's all pearl clutching and smelling salts.
Hold on. Let's not forget that, when called on it, you said:
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Well leaving aside the fact that standing with a comrade is an example of the very solidarity we are taking about, the highlighting of CRI's behaviour is not just about her as an individual it's about showing why her type of politics (liberalism) is part of the problem and is incapable of being part of the solution.
People haven't just been slagging her off, they've explained why her politics, both on an individual level and on the wider social level, are harmful.
(And, however, boring it might be for you, IMO it's a damn sight less boring that page after page of silly twitter links)
EDIT: in fact replace CRI with Trump in post #404 and see how daft it reads.
People haven't just been slagging her off, they've explained why her politics, both on an individual level and on the wider social level, are harmful.
(And, however, boring it might be for you, IMO it's a damn sight less boring that page after page of silly twitter links)
EDIT: in fact replace CRI with Trump in post #404 and see how daft it reads.
andysays
Love and solidarity
The point is that they continue to do "it", repeatedly and with absolutely no apology for or even acknowledgement of the fact that they're doing it.
And the "it" in question is calling into question the motivation of anyone disagreeing with their view of the world, ranging from the outright accusations of racism which at least two posters here have been subjected to, to misrepresenting thoughtful comments as chiding and scolding people for their reactions.
My personal favourite was when I was accused of colonialism for mockingly pointing out a post which demonstrated that Americans don't, as has been claimed by CRI and others, have some amazing and unique knowledge of and insight into American politics and history, and ridiculing the suggestion that the rest of us should automatically defer to their allegedly greater insight.
That's why it's happening, that, IMO, is what is continuing to disrupt the thread. The "pages and pages of shit" are the direct consequence of CRI's repeated utterly dishonest posting. The simplest way to prevent the disruption would be for that poster to apologise for all the shit they've come out with and to refrain from doing it in future.
bimble
floofy
What's the bit that made you feel tempted to say 'i told you so'?
Is it the president's attempt to characterise the 40,000 (?) counter protestors who turned up by tweeting that there are lots of "anti police agitators" about? Do you think that is enough to convince lots of undecided unaligned folk that maybe the nazis have got a point? There's no way to control what he might say and no way to ensure that everyone behaves the same way unless you have no mass protests at all.
And maybe have a think about why some people amongst the 40,000 might have attacked the police there also, after they (police) spent all day protecting the tiny number of "free speechers" , and when the BLM movement has to some degree been forged out of accumulated rage about police brutality?
I've never paid attention to CRI's posts before, they haven't really made any sense to me, and I don't pay any attention to any post with a twitter link, but I'm trying because it seems that being a bit more savvy about how people express their politics on the internet is something I should do given the state of things. I don't find it easy, it sometimes feels like I'm cracking a code, but instead of just ignoring CRI posts I've read them on this thread and she's attacking posters with almost every post. She lies about posters, and lies to herself, and plays victim either directly (poor American) or in identification with an oppressed minority, while attacking a politics of solidarity.
On the one hand, I'm tempted to say just ignore her, it's what I'd usually do. It feels mad to spend time arguing with someone who isn't even arguing in an honest and rational way, just one person on the internet. But I'm not sure of that any more.
I've censored a post of my own (deleted it) on these boards recently, it was a support thread not a politics thread, but afterwards I thought, fucking hell, I censored myself because I was aware that it may be misinterpreted as a right wing trope, or in CRI's words a dog whistle, and cause more trouble than it was worth on a thread that I didn't feel entitled to post on. And that feels dangerous to me.
On the one hand, I'm tempted to say just ignore her, it's what I'd usually do. It feels mad to spend time arguing with someone who isn't even arguing in an honest and rational way, just one person on the internet. But I'm not sure of that any more.
I've censored a post of my own (deleted it) on these boards recently, it was a support thread not a politics thread, but afterwards I thought, fucking hell, I censored myself because I was aware that it may be misinterpreted as a right wing trope, or in CRI's words a dog whistle, and cause more trouble than it was worth on a thread that I didn't feel entitled to post on. And that feels dangerous to me.
Athos
Well-Known Member
With regard to the specific instance of my last post on this thread, it was to show solidarity with a decent poster who'd been disgustingly smeared.
More generally, I challenge the sort of shit that CRI (and like minded identity politics liberals) spew out because it threatens to kill off any meaningful discussion of politics or current affairs on these boards (to which it's already done great harm).
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Athos
Well-Known Member
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
So people should leave accusations and insinuations alone so you're not bored. Right.
SpineyNorman
Inappropriate content removed
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
maomao
普費斯
Just to emphasise that this seems to have blown up not because of one incident but because of over a year of smears and lies. Calling posters racist and then putting them on ignore when they ask for an explanation. Hundreds of posts insinuating that anything left of centre is racist or equivalent to far right ideology. This isn't a few posters being picky. This is the end result of a year of constant abuse and lies.
This kind of monstering is as much to say to the poster in question that they aren't welcome as anything else.
Someone will no doubt complain that she's being hounded from the boards. I don't have a huge problem with that - this community is under no compulsion to provide a welcoming space for all. While we enjoy a robust debate, there are lines, and CRI has crossed them multiple times. Posters are now saying 'actually, no. Off you go.'
Someone will no doubt complain that she's being hounded from the boards. I don't have a huge problem with that - this community is under no compulsion to provide a welcoming space for all. While we enjoy a robust debate, there are lines, and CRI has crossed them multiple times. Posters are now saying 'actually, no. Off you go.'
rekil
to menny cranks
Louis Proyect piece on Charlottesville and tactics used. Lol at the tags. His pic caption has a go at someone in an Arsenal shirt.
I'm not sure if tabarded marshals could have helped really, but a more serious approach to security is certainly a priority.
Antifa and the perils of adventurism
Louis is generally ace and got an old article on Iran republished at my request, but this is a bit strange.
I'm not sure if tabarded marshals could have helped really, but a more serious approach to security is certainly a priority.
Antifa and the perils of adventurism
Louis is generally ace and got an old article on Iran republished at my request, but this is a bit strange.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
right. yet you seem to have espoused the same views 10 years ago. i'm not sure how you can say 'my view is based on something which happened to me a couple of years ago' when it clearly isn't.
D'wards
IT'S YOUR DECISION DANIEL
I'd love to see a Channel 4 Cutting Edge documentary on you Pickmans. How the online persona aligns with the man in real life.
A fascinating character for sure
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