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For some reason I went back to the early pages of this thread- took about 40 pages before the possible energy impact of mining this toss popped up via a Reuter’s link. The post itself wad surrounded by victims tugging themselves off about using free work electric to run their mining setup.

I came
 
What a fucking idiot. I can only hope this sets a trend. Sounds like a fair few of these idiots scaled themselves up to depend on the highest bubble price. Fucking hell it was only remotely near that level for a couple of months . Not even the slightest mention there of energy waste global warming or anything else.
 
The guy in that article reckons $2500 to mine a bitcoin somewhere in the US where power is 25% cheaper than elsewhere, so about $3300 elsewhere in the States. That’s slightly cheaper than I’ve read elsewhere but it’s good to see an estimate from somebody really doing it. So, relatively speaking, not much more tumbling before the whole system becomes unsustainable!
 
The £200 I invested out of curiosity 15 months ago is now worth £85 and the app I used saying buying and selling is suspended is due a 'hard fork'.

Wheels off?
 
Whatever “price” it is showing is due to blatant market manipulation by a handful of big players over a holiday weekend when volumes were thin. I don’t care either away ( energy issues aside) but it’s a rotten gerrymandered game to play for most people
 
Whatever “price” it is showing is due to blatant market manipulation by a handful of big players over a holiday weekend when volumes were thin. I don’t care either away ( energy issues aside) but it’s a rotten gerrymandered game to play for most people
Not sure about that. It started sliding before the holiday weekend. Only reason the big players would manipulate it like that would be to buy it up cheap in anticipation of the price going back up.

I think bitcoin is best understood as a very simple thing with a simple dynamic. There are no underlying fundamentals. There is no market analysis to be done. There is simply confidence. And any big player who tries to mess with that confidence is likely to get burned.
 
Mebbes - if I had zillions of cash and no morals , I would short the fuck out of it at opportune moments like a BH weekend. The drop may be down to those who have no actual BC interest but just see it as another lawless Wild West to be exploited.

Bleats are starting to be heard demanding that price stability ( ie price appreciation for the poor lambs who are not making the money they expected) can only come about with increased acceptance of BC legitimacy and subsequent regulation by authorities.

I don’t even know where to start in that approach. Is the world now run by a cake and eat it cartel ?
 
You may well be right about the little blip over the weekend, but it's inexorably on the way down. If they are shorting it like that, all I can hope is that their greed will lead them to hang on to their bitcoins for too long and lose their shirts after panicking the market once too often.
 
So normlay it goes up in december and down in Jan due to the drugs everyone buys... not seeing that pattern this year so far....
 
Under $4 k again

Lolz. Even reckless shite like Morgan Stanley have quit offering bitcoin support. That’s a real shame as I would like to see the banks take a hit on this speculative toss
 
Stabilised for the last week or so, though, and that still represents an enormous bubble - £50 billion quid or so of fictitious capital. Still need to knock a couple of zeros off that at least.
 
So normlay it goes up in december and down in Jan due to the drugs everyone buys... not seeing that pattern this year so far....

I don’t think you can apply *normal* logic to stuff like this. Most of the great Satan has access to weed half legitimately these days. It is now just Wild West speculation and carpet baggery driven
 
I don’t think you can apply *normal* logic to stuff like this. Most of the great Satan has access to weed half legitimately these days. It is now just Wild West speculation and carpet baggery driven

just saying what i have seen the past 5-6 years i have been using it that's all ;)

this year i don't see it... so that's intresting.
 
I don’t think you can apply *normal* logic to stuff like this. Most of the great Satan has access to weed half legitimately these days. It is now just Wild West speculation and carpet baggery driven

I have no proof of this but I would guess that weed sales (and heroin and other drugs mainly used by habitual users) get less of a seasonal surge than cocaine* and party drugs.

*I'm aware that cocaine addiction is common but I know loads of people who do it a couple of times a year whereas every stoner I know is 365 on it.
 
We’re so very close to the point of no return now. I am genuinely fascinated to see what will happen when/if its price drops below mining cost. Will it collapse to zero? Will it be bouyed to stay at cost price?
 
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