XL Bully dog - discussion

[Mr.Bishie]

Going by the scale on this diagram that man is 3'4" tall.

I’d wager Ian Symes, the man who was killed, was a lot taller.

 

[8ball]

Fucksake 8Ball. What are you aiming for here? For me to say “Yep, you’re right, I’m wrong. In light of your experience I now re-evaluate my own and I’ve changed my mind”

You: big strong nice dog not let go of ball!

Me: yeah, nice dogs hold ball hard sometimes. not let go. dogged. me do pun lol.

You: but with big strong dog - it really hard!

Me: big strong dog hold ball harder. not so strange. even if nice dog.

You: me take ball home now. not play with mean person!

 

[platinumsage]

I was talking of the last time this happened and then no one was bitten by a dog ever after.

Yeah that’s what they say about gun laws in America. e.g. New York state bans most gun ownership, yet criminals still carry guns and kill people with them, therefore the gun laws shouldn’t have been passed.

What’s your solution to the ownership of dogs which frequently kill and maim people and which can only easily be stopped by certain weapons? Do you think we should tighten up and improve the laws on dangerous dogs, or just say “whoa dude, media panic alert, let’s not ban anything”?

 

[Callie]

I saw this dog being arrested by the police.

She was wandering around the streets, obviously worrying people cos she was a bull breed. She was really friendly, wiggling at her arrester and hopped into the van when asked.

She looked like she had lots of scars though hope she didn't get put down

 

[xenon]

There's a breed called XL Bully? Sounds lovely...

It may be that given the most judicious and responsible owner, one would never attack anyone. But hard / weapon dog breeds, are attractive to scumbags and idiots.

Ban them. And the dogs as well...

 

[8ball]

Yeah that’s what they say about gun laws in America. e.g. New York state bans most gun ownership, yet criminals still carry guns and kill people with them, therefore the gun laws shouldn’t have been passed.

What’s your solution to the ownership of dogs which frequently kill and maim people and which can only easily be stopped by certain weapons? Do you think we should tighten up and improve the laws on dangerous dogs, or just say “whoa dude, media panic alert, let’s not ban anything”?

Big dogs, guns, crocs. All bad. Ban them!

 

[8ball]

For those of restricted memory, one of the issues with the bans on dog breeds is that there is no simple way of determining a dog’s breed.

This issue then gets exacerbated by Government, who start writing laws of the “chiefly characterised by a series of repetitive beats” variety.

The law is based entirely on what a dog looks like.

This has led to mongrels of unrelated heritage being destroyed, among other innocent dogs.

Also, the dangerous dogs act completely failed in reducing the number of injuries from dog attacks.

Extending a failed law doesn’t look like the way to go to me.

 

[xenon]

Ah I knew someone was gonna make the argument about you can't identify the breeds. How come people buy them on the basis it's a particular breed then. I know it looks like a Yorkie but seriously mate it is a mini Japanese Toza.

 

[Spymaster]

I can guarantee my dog would never attack anyone but then he’s a ridiculously soppy spaniel. I wouldn’t be so confident if I owned one of the more ‘dangerous’ breeds.

I could pretty much guarantee that the white dickhead would never attack anyone but he’s still kept firmly attached to me in public if there are people around. It only takes one mistake to change someone’s life.

 

[8ball]

I could pretty much guarantee that the white dickhead would never attack anyone but he’s still kept firmly attached to me in public if there are people around. It only takes one mistake to change someone’s life.

What kind of dog is he?

(I assume we’re talking about a dog)

 

[8ball]

Ah I knew someone was gonna make the argument about you can't identify the breeds. How come people buy them on the basis it's a particular breed then. I know it looks like a Yorkie but seriously mate it is a mini Japanese Toza.

Full moon was last night.

This thread is a day late.

 

[Steel Icarus]

What’s your solution to the ownership of dogs which frequently kill and maim people and which can only easily be stopped by certain weapons? Do you think we should tighten up and improve the laws on dangerous dogs, or just say “whoa dude, media panic alert, let’s not ban anything”?

That's not what you said though. Your solution is to round up and destroy all dogs belonging to a certain breed, which is a sledgehammer/nut affair. I agree some dogs should have a more stringent vetting process before ownership and possibly reduction of numbers imported. I didn't say "do nothing" at all. So you've not only claimed something different to what you did originally, you've attributed to me something I didn't say

 

[platinumsage]

That's not what you said though. Your solution is to round up and destroy all dogs belonging to a certain breed, which is a sledgehammer/nut affair. I agree some dogs should have a more stringent vetting process before ownership and possibly reduction of numbers imported. I didn't say "do nothing" at all. So you've not only claimed something different to what you did originally, you've attributed to me something I didn't say

That's my solution, yes. Yours was "media panic", so I suggested something half-way I thought you might reasonably agree with. I certainly didn't attribute to you something you didn't say.

How is a stringent vetting process going to tackle the issue of dangerous dogs though? That's straight out of the "guns don't kill people, people do" playbook, only it's even less true when applied to dogs.

 

[Spymaster]

What kind of dog is he?

(I assume we’re talking about a dog)

Malamute/Husky. Not strictly mine but I can’t seem to get rid of him.

 

[8ball]

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Malamute/Husky. Not strictly mine but I can’t seem to get rid of him.

Hard to gauge scale but looks scary enough.

I had a bit of a dog phobia growing up. The 1970s was not a good time for a dog phobia.

Sure he’s lovely and all that, but would still give me a start if off the lead and regular huskie size.

 

[platinumsage]

Only one husky has killed a child in the UK so far this year.

 

[8ball]

Only one husky has killed a child in the UK so far this year.

Is that an argument for Spy letting the white dickhead off the leash?

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Just did some Googleing.

Looks like cows kill more than dogs.


Well need bull dogs to protect us from cattle

 

[moomoo]

This is Max. Or Killer as he’s more commonly known

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

For those of restricted memory, one of the issues with the bans on dog breeds is that there is no simple way of determining a dog’s breed.

This issue then gets exacerbated by Government, who start writing laws of the “chiefly characterised by a series of repetitive beats” variety.

The law is based entirely on what a dog looks like.

This has led to mongrels of unrelated heritage being destroyed, among other innocent dogs.

Also, the dangerous dogs act completely failed in reducing the number of injuries from dog attacks.

Extending a failed law doesn’t look like the way to go to me.

I thought they do DNA tests on the dogs now, to see if they are a banned breed?

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

This is Max. Or Killer as he’s more commonly known

Killer has proper savaged that teddy bear!

 

[moomoo]

Killer has proper savaged that teddy bear!

I know. I take back everything I said about him being a gentle soul!!

 

[platinumsage]

Just did some Googleing.

Looks like cows kill more than dogs.


Well need bull dogs to protect us from cattle

Cows kill farmers and dog owners who take dogs into their fields.

Cows don’t kill children in their homes or playgrounds.

 

[8ball]

I thought they do DNA tests on the dogs now, to see if they are a banned breed?

I don’t know about over the pond, and I wasn’t aware of any decent genetic markers that could be used, but in the UK, if the State decides a dog is a banned breed, it is the owner’s responsibility to prove otherwise.

 

[Orang Utan]

Yeah that’s what they say about gun laws in America. e.g. New York state bans most gun ownership, yet criminals still carry guns and kill people with them, therefore the gun laws shouldn’t have been passed.

What’s your solution to the ownership of dogs which frequently kill and maim people and which can only easily be stopped by certain weapons? Do you think we should tighten up and improve the laws on dangerous dogs, or just say “whoa dude, media panic alert, let’s not ban anything”?

Solution. Like there’s a solution that I or anyone else here is going to come up with. The answer is I dunno. Ask an expert.

 

[Orang Utan]

Just did some Googleing.

Looks like cows kill more than dogs.


Well need bull dogs to protect us from cattle

Just wait til you hear how many cows get killed by humans. Ban humans!

 

[felixthecat]

I thought they do DNA tests on the dogs now, to see if they are a banned breed?

Yes they do.

 

[platinumsage]

Solution. Like there’s a solution that I or anyone else here is going to come up with. The answer is I dunno. Ask an expert.

If you don’t know what the solution is and would rather defer to experts, why did you twice say that banning dogs is a bad idea?

 

[Orang Utan]

If you don’t know what the solution is and would rather defer to experts, why did you twice say that banning dogs is a bad idea?

I didn’t come here to be scrutinised, Mr Paxman. It’s Saturday evening.

 

[8ball]

Yes they do.

Gets them as far as determining they are actually looking at a dog, I guess.