XL Bully dog - discussion

[xenon]

And again. If it’s so hard to pin down what exact breed is. How come people buy them sold as such. I mean that’s kind of the whole point. People who want this particular dog want this particular dog.

 

[8ball]

Oh but they’re really well-behaved around babies fuck off.

I’m not sure that all the voices you’re replying to are originating from this thread.

 

[xenon]

8ball I may reply to your inevitable sarcastic post tomorrow.

 

[xenon]

Well you were quicker than I expected. I’ll give you that.

 

[xenon]

I’m not sure that all the voices you’re replying to are originating from this thread.

How’s thread policing going for you? Having fun?

 

[8ball]

Well you were quicker than I expected. I’ll give you that.

That wasn’t sarcasm, just a suggestion that you might find more resolution somewhere other than this thread.

 

[xenon]

That wasn’t sarcasm, just a suggestion that you might find more resolution somewhere other than this thread.

What are you doing on this thread? What’s your motivation?

 

[8ball]

What are you doing on this thread? What’s your motivation?

Something something far right, probably

 

[xenon]

Something something far right, probably

I don’t think you’re far right. If it’s worth anything at all. And no not all the sentiments I am tilting at have been expressed on this thread . but you can find them elsewhere readily enough. I’m just bringing fresh blood.

 

[8ball]

I don’t think you’re far right. If it’s worth anything at all. And no not all the sentiments I am tilting at have been expressed on this thread . but you can find them elsewhere readily enough. I’m just bringing fresh blood.

Fair enough. Reacting to things people haven’t said does look a bit scattergun at best, though.

No probs with fresh blood, but not ideal if you’ve brought it in a bucket.

Basically I don’t think breed/type specific legislation is much use, satisfying as it may feel to some during a moral panic, and there are measures that would be much more useful, though they would likely cost a little more.

For example, as things are, when a new breed is created to squeeze around the morphological guidelines that the police assessors use, you have to re-characterise a new “type” in law before you can start mandating things like registration/insurance/whatever.

 

[xenon]

Fair enough. Reacting to things people haven’t said does look a bit scattergun at best, though.

No probs with fresh blood, but not ideal if you’ve brought it in a bucket.

Basically I don’t think breed/type specific legislation is much use, satisfying as it may feel to some during a moral panic, and there are measures that would be much more useful, though they would likely cost a little more.

For example, as things are, when a new breed is created to squeeze around the morphological guidelines that the police assessors use, you have to re-characterise a new “type” in law before you can start mandating things like registration/insurance/whatever. find make dog insurance compulsory. You could also ban dogs over certain weight.

as I say, there is clearly a market for this sort of dog. That’s it can be defined to an extent.

 

[8ball]

as I say, there is clearly a market for this sort of dog. That’s it can be defined to an extent.

Well, there was a market for micro pot bellied pigs and they didn’t even exist.

But I’m not sure what the existence of a market is meant to demonstrate.
That organised criminals are breeding big nasty dogs from a selection of other breeds?
I don’t think anyone is disputing that.

 

[xenon]

Well, there was a market for micro pot bellied pigs and they didn’t even exist.

But I’m not sure what the existence of a market is meant to demonstrate.
That organised criminals are breeding big nasty dogs from a selection of other breeds?
I don’t think anyone is disputing that.

So how does this market find its customers? How do people identify the product? And if you create that product, market that product purchase that product? Oh no we can’t do anything. Really. Is that what you’re saying? That there might be some confusion with some of the big ugly muscle dog?

 

[xenon]

Oh knows I only wanted a poodle but I ended up with a 17 stone fucking piece of work that I call Beast. Woops

 

[Looby]

as I say, there is clearly a market for this sort of dog. That’s it can be defined to an extent.

People are also fucking stupid and often don’t know what they’re buying off gumtree or pets4homes.
So yeah they’re looking for a type of dog I guess but won’t actually have much of a clue about the heritage.

 

[8ball]

So how does this market find its customers? How do people identify the product? And if you create that product, market that product purchase that product? Oh no we can’t do anything. Really. Is that what you’re saying? That there might be some confusion with some of the big ugly muscle dog?

That’s not what I’m saying, that’s not what I’ve said anywhere. The arguments against breed-specific legislation aren’t difficult to find - try the RSPCA, or British Veterinary Association, or the AVMA (the American equivalent).

Though that doesn’t really matter when someone will reboot the thread in a few months or whatever and pretend none of it was ever discussed.

 

[xenon]

People are also fucking stupid and often don’t know what they’re buying off gumtree or pets4homes.
So yeah they’re looking for a type of dog I guess but won’t actually have much of a clue about the heritage.

Fine. I mean find them as well.

 

[xenon]

That’s not what I’m saying, that’s not what I’ve said anywhere. The arguments against breed-specific legislation aren’t difficult to find - try the RSPCA, or British Veterinary Association, or the AVMA (the American equivalent).

Though that doesn’t really matter when someone will reboot the thread in a few months or whatever and pretend none of it was ever discussed.

You’re not really saying anything though are you other than it’s too complicated.

 

[8ball]

You’re not really saying anything though are you other than it’s too complicated.

No, the arguments aren’t complicated at all.

 

[xenon]

No, the arguments aren’t complicated at all.

In which post do you frame yours then? I mean the sarcastic ones aside. We’ve all Gotta have our fun.

 

[8ball]

We’ve all Gotta have our fun.

What, like you trying to stoke a little moral panic by coming out with shit no one has even said?

 

[xenon]

I mean where else does this logic stand. I was looking for a kitchen knife but accidentally bought a machete. Oh no never mind you can keep it. no one can tell the difference.

 

[8ball]

I mean where else does this logic stand. I was looking for a kitchen knife but accidentally bought a machete. Oh no never mind you can keep it. no one can tell the difference.

Ah, another thing totally unrelated to anything anyone has said.

Some people will have unfilled slots on their bingo cards, so keep it up.

 

[xenon]

What, like you trying to stoke a little moral panic by coming out with shit no one has even said?

Oh yes I am the Daily Mail incarnate. For thinking these type of dogs I mean as if the clue isn’t in their name, should not be on the streets.

 

[8ball]

Oh yes I am the Daily Mail incarnate.

Well, maybe if you work on your journalistic standards a little you’ll get there.

 

[xenon]

There we are then you’re having fun with the condescension and sarcasm. As I say we all do it. Tedious though it is.

 

[8ball]

There we are then you’re having a fun with the condescension and sarcasm. As I say we all do it. Tedious though it is.

You might try addressing a point which has been actually made. Otherwise you appear to be the arse who is just fucking about.

 

[Looby]

Fine. I mean find them as well.

Eh?

 

[8ball]

Eh?

I think “find” was meant to be “fine”.
Or possibly “flog”..

 

[xenon]

You might try addressing a point which has been actually made. Otherwise you appear to be the arse who is just fucking about.

You haven’t made a point as far as I can see. I’m not really reading the whole thread.
Bit fucking rich of you to accuse me of messing about as well.