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Which jab did you have - Astra Zeneca or Pfizer? And what side effects?
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Jesus fucking christ, you were big sick!
I just remembered that she was also withdrawing from the steroids she's been on since her operation nearly two years ago, which might have had some impact...
Mate I was having periods of feeling muddled, it was awful. 48 hours later after O2, dex and some normal saline and I was on the road to recovery. I may curse it, but God bless Jimmies!
Maybe, yes. Sounds awful though. Keep a watch when she has the second xx
Oxford. Nothing for 24 hours, then the next 24 hours I felt awful - aches all over and really tired. Since then no problems.
FridgeMagnet
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In a past life I dealt with safety data from clinical trials, and "headache" is so indistinguishable from placebo generally that it's rarely considered significant. (Also "nausea" and "sleep disturbance".)
AZ Weds evening - no problems at all so far. I was a bit disappointed that I didn’t get offered a little sit down after - but you only get that with the Pfizer....
Know a lot of people who’ve had vaccine now and only one who felt a bit poorly and she’d definitely had C19 last year.
Know a lot of people who’ve had vaccine now and only one who felt a bit poorly and she’d definitely had C19 last year.
weltweit
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AZ here, they asked if I had driven, then recommended I sit in my car for 15 minutes before driving off.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
I’m getting the oxford/AZ one on Tuesday.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Front line medical staff in Ireland are up in arms at the fact they're being administered the AZ vaccine, as it only has a 60% efficacy, compared to the 95% efficacy that the other two approved vaccines boast.
www.irishtimes.com
Health staff say they are getting ‘least efficacious vaccine’
HSE told workers are dissatisfied at being given AstraZeneca jab with ‘only 60% efficacy’
Front line medical staff in Ireland are up in arms at the fact they're being administered the AZ vaccine, as it only has a 60% efficacy, compared to the 95% efficacy that the other two approved vaccines boast.
Health staff say they are getting ‘least efficacious vaccine’
HSE told workers are dissatisfied at being given AstraZeneca jab with ‘only 60% efficacy’
What do these efficacy figures actually refer to? I'm struggling to find references to anything other than 'attack rate' online.
There are at least five different things I can think of:
- percentage reduction in PCR cases vs the control group
- percentage reduction in asymptomatic individuals
- percentage reduction in severe cases
- percentage reduction in deaths
- percentage reduction in transmissibility
I think it's the second one (reduction in asymptomatic individuals), is that right?
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I have no idea how they've reached those figures.
Fair enough (sorry, I edited the original post to add a bit of clarity to what I'm on about).
The best I can find online are quotes like "What the 95% actually means is that vaccinated people had a 95% lower risk of getting COVID-19 compared with the control group participants, who weren't vaccinated."
But what "getting COVID-19" means is left up to interpretation.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
I'd guess the key thing is how much does a given vaccine reduce the risk of severe disease/hospitalisation/death. If it resulted in a person catching it but not becoming particularly ill that's a good enough outcome. Ideally it'd stop someone catching it entirely, but anything is better than nothing.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
Didn't know that - I thought it was just a general precaution across the board as they're new vaccines. I remember them insisting everyone waited for the same time when I first starting getting flu jabs (15 years ago?) - but they no longer do that, at least with me.
I tend to agree that this is probably the best number to use if we're going to pick one, but I'd rather know for sure rather than guessing!
If it's a 60% vs 95% chance of being asymptomatic, then I'd say anyone rejecting one over the other is just being an arse, deal with it.
But if it's a 60% vs 95% reduction in transmissibilty, or as you say severe disease, then yeah it really matters for a healthcare worker who is basically 100% guaranteed to get the virus given enough time.
I guess they're probably all correlated anyway since that's how viruses work innit. Personally I'll take whatever I'm given!
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Combustible
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IIRC the efficacy refers to preventing symptomatic infection, i.e. a positive test + symptoms of some sort. I don't think any hospitalization/serious cases were reported for either vaccine (maybe 1 for Pfizer?), but given the relatively low numbers of infections in the vaccine group, I don't know to what degree they can rule out some serious cases
scifisam
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Zeneca. It was hell. Only for about 24 hours, but man, it was bad. My heart rate still hasn't recovered and I'm concerned - I have an underlying heart condition and I've been ignoring it for a while, because it's just so fucking tiresome. Had an op and it wasn't all better, but good enough. And it had been good enough for years, literally till the day of the vaccine. 128BPM plus 70 oxygen, man.
Apparently an increased heart rate is not unusual as a reaction, esp for people who've had covid.
Not sure if I should get the second dose. I'm leaning towards yes because surely my body has given up fighting against this by now, but I'll check with my GP.
I'd still recommend getting the vaccine as opposed to getting or spreading the disease.
Apparently an increased heart rate is not unusual as a reaction, esp for people who've had covid.
Not sure if I should get the second dose. I'm leaning towards yes because surely my body has given up fighting against this by now, but I'll check with my GP.
I'd still recommend getting the vaccine as opposed to getting or spreading the disease.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
This article has some efficacy figures which look pretty good.
One Pfizer/BioNTech shot gives 85% Covid protection - study
Research findings from Israel lend support to UK’s decision to increase gap in dosing to 12 weeks
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ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Had the Oxford yesterday 9am and felt nothing except a slightly odd feeling runny nose (apparently in there as aside effect according to the sheet I was given).
I had a pretty restless night and ache all over, (played a major part in my dreams) a bit like, but not quite the same as if I had done a big workout and a run yesterday (which I didn't). My back is especially bad. My injection arm is definitely feeling pain now just below where the injection was. Mild headache.
At this point I wouldn't be anything was crazy out if the ordinary if I hadn't had the vaccine.
I had a pretty restless night and ache all over, (played a major part in my dreams) a bit like, but not quite the same as if I had done a big workout and a run yesterday (which I didn't). My back is especially bad. My injection arm is definitely feeling pain now just below where the injection was. Mild headache.
At this point I wouldn't be anything was crazy out if the ordinary if I hadn't had the vaccine.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
"Something else"
They still do it with flu jabs round these parts and ply you with coffee/juice and biscuits
. (Not this year though obvs.)
farmerbarleymow
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gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I just got Astra-Zeneca'd - surgery called me and asked me to turn up whenever I wanted as they had spare slots 
I genuinely didn't feel it.
I genuinely didn't feel it.
circleline
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There are still 'availability' issues with Pfizer second doses, according to daughter's London hospital. She should have had her 2nd dose this week.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Two hours later and a very slight feeling of heaviness in the upper arm..
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Just over 24hrs after the Oxford jab.
Slickly managed so in and out in less than 5 minutes ...
Barely felt the actual jab (apparently something to do with long needles for intra-muscular injections).
Had a bad night, but 90% of that was because I had a bout of IBS [mine is the result of a sudden drop in stress, especially a period of long-term stress - I think waiting for my covid jab counts as I have been staying at home since this time last year. Additionally, a new project arrived at work a couple of days ago, that we've been trying to get delivered for over six months]
Today, I'm feeling washed out, very tired and I can't concentrate. Temperature regulation isn't working too well, either! I woke up with a bad headache - two ibuprofen fixed that, but I've some general aches and pains, and my arm is less sore than it was with this year's flu jab.
I might have another nap ...
Slickly managed so in and out in less than 5 minutes ...
Barely felt the actual jab (apparently something to do with long needles for intra-muscular injections).
Had a bad night, but 90% of that was because I had a bout of IBS [mine is the result of a sudden drop in stress, especially a period of long-term stress - I think waiting for my covid jab counts as I have been staying at home since this time last year. Additionally, a new project arrived at work a couple of days ago, that we've been trying to get delivered for over six months]
Today, I'm feeling washed out, very tired and I can't concentrate. Temperature regulation isn't working too well, either! I woke up with a bad headache - two ibuprofen fixed that, but I've some general aches and pains, and my arm is less sore than it was with this year's flu jab.
I might have another nap ...
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