Vuelta - Utrecht to Madrid 2022
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twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Ignore that clown Blythe; he hates Remco because he touched his beloved Ben Turner once.
You can't carry on at that pace with a slow puncture so the 3km rule seems appropriate in this case. Of course my wallet is a bit biased on this matter.
sleaterkinney
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He didn’t appear to have a flat though, he could still pedal. Roglic seems a bit crash-prone. I’m not sure it was the best idea to attack there with big days coming up.
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beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
The attack was great - he saw a chance to take a chunk of time and took it. Was just unlucky with the crash.
I always thought the 3km rule was for a crash, not a mechanical, and only for a bunch sprint. Apparently not…
I always thought the 3km rule was for a crash, not a mechanical, and only for a bunch sprint. Apparently not…
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Is that an autocorrect?
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It wasn't just Bythe though. After reviewing the pictures all three were questioning what had happened and RE's own words
sleaterkinney
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It was, and he’s out of the vuelta. Silly.
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Sad to see Rog go Primoz Roglic out of Vuelta a Espana after stage 16 crash
But, my outside tip, Mas now up to second I guess
But, my outside tip, Mas now up to second I guess
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There have been questions raised about Rog and how the team look after him
Team before self. A prisoner of capital.
Primož Roglič’s specialist accuses Jumbo-Visma of putting team goals over rider health
It took Roglič himself to book an MRI scan following his Tour de France DNF, which showed two vertebral fractures on top of shoulder injury.cyclingtips.com
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Here's the best video I've seen of the incident. Silly indeed but he must have been seeing stars before the crash due to the effort he made.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Such a shame he’s out, it was shaping up to be a good battle.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
If you haven’t seen todays stage, go watch the last 15km or so immediately. What a finish!
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Just caught the finish...good fight for the line
It was a good stage with interesting tactics from UAE. Worth a watch if you have the time. These mid mountain stages are so much better than the high mountains where n one wants to show their strength til near the end - felt like a classics race as did the day before with the break hammering shit out of each other.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Wow, just wow Roglic. The arrogance of Team Jumbo never fails to amaze me. This is so unfair on Fred Wright.
Excuse the translation from a Dutch site.
"Roglic tells on the Jumbo-Visma team site that he has questions about the crash. "How is this possible? I conclude that it is not acceptable. Not everyone got that right. The fall was not caused by a bad road or a lack of safety, but by the behavior of a rider," said the three-time winner of the Vuelta a España.
“I don't have eyes in my back, otherwise I would have widened. Wright came from behind and got the wheel out of my hands before I knew it," Roglic continues. “This was not okay. It is quickly stepped over again and we move on to the order of the day. That doesn't apply to me. This is not the way I want the sport to continue and I want to send that message.”
Richard Plugge: “Brake and use your brain”
Sports director Richard Plugge is happy that his riders share his opinion. “I am happy that Primoz is speaking out, looking in the mirror and also mentioning the behavior of riders. Research shows that in about half of the cases the racing behavior of the riders is to blame for a crash. Do not brake, but push for example. It doesn't surprise me, because every rider has the will to win. I would like to say: brake and use your brain”, says Plugge."
Excuse the translation from a Dutch site.
"Roglic tells on the Jumbo-Visma team site that he has questions about the crash. "How is this possible? I conclude that it is not acceptable. Not everyone got that right. The fall was not caused by a bad road or a lack of safety, but by the behavior of a rider," said the three-time winner of the Vuelta a España.
“I don't have eyes in my back, otherwise I would have widened. Wright came from behind and got the wheel out of my hands before I knew it," Roglic continues. “This was not okay. It is quickly stepped over again and we move on to the order of the day. That doesn't apply to me. This is not the way I want the sport to continue and I want to send that message.”
Richard Plugge: “Brake and use your brain”
Sports director Richard Plugge is happy that his riders share his opinion. “I am happy that Primoz is speaking out, looking in the mirror and also mentioning the behavior of riders. Research shows that in about half of the cases the racing behavior of the riders is to blame for a crash. Do not brake, but push for example. It doesn't surprise me, because every rider has the will to win. I would like to say: brake and use your brain”, says Plugge."
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
It’s rather wide of the mark, yeah 
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Jumbo really are a classless bunch.
Fred shows some class here -
As does the Bahrain team statement (my italics by the way).
"Just before the stage finished, and while the riders were all still on the road, Team Jumbo Visma released a statement on their website regarding the crash in the finishing straight on stage 16 which led to Primoz Roglic’s withdrawal from the race.
In it, the triple Vuelta winner and the team’s managing director insinuate heavily that our rider, Fred Wright, was to blame for the incident, and for the Slovenian’s injuries.
Team Bahrain Victorious stand by Fred.
It is our belief that this was a racing incident. Unfortunately crashes are a part of our sport and this isn’t the first, nor will it be the last, even though riders do their best to avoid them. The race footage supports this: our rider does not deviate from his racing line before the incident.
We also believe that if a team has certain feelings about an incident on the road, the place to take those up is with the commissaires after the stage rather than a statement online some days later.
It is predictable that releasing a statement such as this leads to vitriol and hate being expressed towards a fellow member of the peloton, which we find most disappointing. We sincerely hope that actions encouraging such behaviour online will cease to happen. Fred is kind, generous, and incredibly talented. He does not deserve the comments or sentiments that have been directed towards him in recent days."
Fred shows some class here -
As does the Bahrain team statement (my italics by the way).
"Just before the stage finished, and while the riders were all still on the road, Team Jumbo Visma released a statement on their website regarding the crash in the finishing straight on stage 16 which led to Primoz Roglic’s withdrawal from the race.
In it, the triple Vuelta winner and the team’s managing director insinuate heavily that our rider, Fred Wright, was to blame for the incident, and for the Slovenian’s injuries.
Team Bahrain Victorious stand by Fred.
It is our belief that this was a racing incident. Unfortunately crashes are a part of our sport and this isn’t the first, nor will it be the last, even though riders do their best to avoid them. The race footage supports this: our rider does not deviate from his racing line before the incident.
We also believe that if a team has certain feelings about an incident on the road, the place to take those up is with the commissaires after the stage rather than a statement online some days later.
It is predictable that releasing a statement such as this leads to vitriol and hate being expressed towards a fellow member of the peloton, which we find most disappointing. We sincerely hope that actions encouraging such behaviour online will cease to happen. Fred is kind, generous, and incredibly talented. He does not deserve the comments or sentiments that have been directed towards him in recent days."
sleaterkinney
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Ridiculous statement from Roglic.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
It's the shit from Jumbo about rider safety that really takes the biscuit.
"Ten years ago, the older riders were sounding the alarm because the younger ones showed less respect, took irresponsible risks, and pushed their way through everything. The younger ones of yesteryear are the older riders of today. But you still hear the same discussion, even though we are a generation ahead. So that has to change. I'm glad that Primoz is speaking out, looking in the mirror and naming the behaviour of riders as well."
Fred has probably been riding as long as the ex-skijumper and certainly has better bike handling skills as I couldn't imagine Roglic staying upright for long in the cobbled classics.
Would just love it if Wright won one of the final two stages.
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
Hard to see exactly what happened in the footage but Fred Wright doesn't appear to deviate his line so it's just bad luck to Roglic.
Meanwhile Fred will surely have multiple wins in the future if he carries on at this level.
Having survived the Sierra Nevada it's hard to see Remco losing it now.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Not bad luck. Kamikaze move and then three days later real crybully stuff.. Here's a good article on it; unfortunately the video doesn't show Roglic coming across from the other side of the road and trying to insert himself into a bunch of sprinters at 60kph
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Roglič instigates bizarre, uncharacteristic war of words in aftermath of Vuelta crash - CyclingTips
Plugge: 'I'm glad that Primoz is speaking out, looking in the mirror and naming the behaviour of riders as well.'
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DJWrongspeed
radio eros
Another video here, nothing to talk about really, bizarre crash.
twistedAM
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DJWrongspeed
radio eros
Given how things turned out the best he could've hoped for was 2nd. Would he have wanted that anyway?
I'm sure Les Belges are going mental today what with their first GC win since Merchx.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
Thankfully he's already on his way to Australia so the partying will have to wait.
A call from the King, media madness and special eclairs: Belgium goes crazy for Remco Evenepoel
The 22-year-old is the first Belgian to win a Grand Tour since 1978
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