Urban75's north - south divide: definitive statistics

[Humberto]

Like to say Liverpool is the 'south' is a bit 'in your face southies', but I expect I've given the resident nob head too much respect.

Actually that's me.

 

[Elpenor]

Actually that's me.

There are many of them

 

[Humberto]

There are many of them

Phew

 

[SpookyFrank]

Why can't they just use the smaller trains on all the lines.

The small trains are quite shit for anyone over 5' 10".

 

[Monte]

The small trains are quite shit for anyone over 5' 10".

Not if you are sitting down.

 

[petee]

It already is. The earth's 'north pole' is in fact a magnetic south pole, hence the north poles of compass needles pointing towards it.

wat

 

[Jennaonthebeach]

LGBT lesson protests oop norf

Read somewhere once that living in London knocks ten years off your life, oh well is that why everyone is like this?? do you get it added back on once you leave? I can believe that, this city is well hostile.

www.urban75.net

I don't think you ever get it back. I've been gone nearly 5 years now and it doesn't seem like its coming back.

 

[brogdale]

wat

wiki is your friend; makes sense when you think about it...

 

[petee]

wiki is your friend; makes sense when you think about it...

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so, the pole that pulls is designated "north" just capriciously? calling it north because it's in the north at least makes some kind of sense.

 

[WouldBe]

wiki is your friend; makes sense when you think about it...

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Is there a way to determine wether a pole is north or South. Otherwise it maybe that the north pole if a compass is actually a south pole.

 

[Orang Utan]

Is there a way to determine wether a pole is north or South. Otherwise it maybe that the north pole if a compass is actually a south pole.

north is up, south is down

 

[Monte]

There is no up or down in space.

 

[brogdale]

so, the pole that pulls is designated "north" just capriciously? calling it north because it's in the north at least makes some kind of sense.

Of course, the etymology of the word "North" predates any scientific understanding of the earth's magnetic field, poles or compasses:

The word north is related to the Old High German nord, both descending from the Proto-Indo-European unit *ner-, meaning "left; below" as north is to left when facing the rising sun. (wiki - again)

so, it seems reasonable that when the magnetic attraction to the direction North was first discovered that it be called the North pole, even if it is scientifically speaking the opposite that's attracting!

 

[petee]

Of course, the etymology of the word "North" predates any scientific understanding of the earth's magnetic field, poles or compasses:



so, it seems reasonable that when the magnetic attraction to the direction North was first discovered that it be called the North pole, even if it is scientifically speaking the opposite that's attracting!

the etymology doesn't matter here (and btw i know about it thanks). if the north pole had ALREADY been designated north, then why not just continue calling "north" the one in the north, regardless of how it pulls or otherwise?

 

[brogdale]

the etymology doesn't matter here (and btw i know about it thanks). if the north pole had ALREADY been designated north, then why not just continue calling "north" the one in the north, regardless of how it pulls or otherwise?

tbh, I think we do; it just seems to be scientifically correct thing to suggest that it is the opposite.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Of course, the etymology of the word "North" predates any scientific understanding of the earth's magnetic field, poles or compasses.

See also 'conventional current' which is depicted as a flow of positive charges from the positive terminal of a battery. Which predates our understanding that it's electrons that carry current in a circuit, and they're negatively charged and travel in the opposite direction.

Of course positive and negative are as arbitrarily assigned as north and south, but IIRC we first decided which was which based on static charges. This was before we got anywhere near batteries and circuits, never mind figuring out what atoms are made of.

 

[teuchter]

the direction North

I note that you have now accepted that North is a direction.

 

[Orang Utan]

Surely it depends where you are

 

[PTK]

Didn't know that, I assumed that the trains were all the same.

All London Underground trains are the same, but some are more the same than others.
I much prefer the cars on lines such as the Metropolitan Line, which have more headroom, to the cars on lines as the Victoria Line. Less claustrphobic. And nearer to the surface of the Earth.

 

[brogdale]

I note that you have now accepted that North is a direction.

Eh? Have I said otherwise?

Must have been pissed, then, when I said that...after all I’ve often posted about my family home in North Kent.

 

[JimW]

North is the Black Turtle; south is the Vermillion Bird. Simple.

 

[teuchter]

Eh? Have I said otherwise?

Must have been pissed, then, when I said that...after all I’ve often posted about my family home in North Kent.

Ah. In that case it's not a direction, just an adjective. North Kent has no direction.

 

[brogdale]

My guess is that urban75 is overwhelmingly populated by people that live in the south of the UK but let's see.

The line is determined by a latitude midway between the northernmost and southernmost points on the mainland of Great Britain and I expect some people (living in the southern region) are going to get upset by this but before you start complaining, consider that I could have included the Shetland isles if I'd wanted, ok?

Is it possible to draw any conclusions from the fact that you haven't responded to the poll in your OP of this thread?

 

[brogdale]

Ah. In that case it's not a direction, just an adjective. North Kent has no direction.

Of course it has a direction for anyone who doesn't happen to be there; North Kent is South of South Essex, but North of South Kent.

 

[isvicthere?]

So, an impressive 11.2% live in Kendal and Northallerton!

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Of course it has a direction for anyone who doesn't happen to be there; North Kent is South of South Essex, but North of South Kent.

and west of east kent, and east of south east london but south east of east london

 

[brogdale]

and west of east kent, and east of south east london but south east of east london

good (cardinal) points, well made!

 

[danny la rouge]

So, an impressive 11,2% live in Kendal and Northallerton!

And an unimpressive majority seem determined to dispute that they live south of there, or to dispute the concept of living south of there. Not sure why.

 

[Humberto]

Still not sure why it matters.

 

[danny la rouge]

Still not sure why it matters.

You’re not sure why an idle poll on an internet forum full of old people avoiding doing other stuff matters!