Mass stabbing at Southport Kids’ Club 29/7/24

[Sasaferrato]

Any act which produces terror is terrorism.

We have become side-tracked into the minutiae of definition by insisting that terrorism must have a religious or political element.

 

[ddraig]

Any act which produces terror is terrorism.

We have become side-tracked into the minutiae of definition by insisting that terrorism must have a religious or political element.

Like tories cutting PIP?

 

[Sasaferrato]

Like tories cutting PIP?

Like the venal scum of Labour increasing bus fares and raising income tax take by freezing personal allowances, a lie on their part.

Like the venal scum of a PM accepting £10k in gifts from his lover.

Like the venal scum of Labour employing (now gone) an MPs wife as Chief of Staff.

Like the venal scum of Labour appointing the Chancellor's sister as Minister Without Portfolio on a £130k salary.

I could go on...

 

[ddraig]

Like the venal scum of Labour increasing bus fares and raising income tax take by freezing personal allowances, a lie on their part.

Like the venal scum of a PM accepting £10k in gifts from his lover.

Like the venal scum of Labour employing (now gone) an MPs wife as Chief of Staff.

Like the venal scum of Labour appointing the Chancellor's sister as Minister Without Portfolio on a £130k salary.

I could go on...

yeah and? does the tories cutting PIP and causing terror fit under your definition of terrorism?

 

[Sasaferrato]

yeah and? does the tories cutting PIP and causing terror fit under your definition of terrorism?

When did this happen?

It didn't. It was under discussion, a discussion that continues under the current government. Stop being dishonest.

No, the government has not reduced Personal Independence Payment (PIP) payments, but it is considering changes to the benefit system. In fact, PIP rates increased by 6.7% on April 8, 2024, to a range of £28.70–£184.30 per week.


However, the government is considering changes to the PIP system, including: Eligibility criteria, Assessments, Moving away from cash payments, and Replacing cash payments with vouchers and grants.

 

[brogdale]

When did this happen?

It didn't. It was under discussion, a discussion that continues under the current government. Stop being dishonest.

No, the government has not reduced Personal Independence Payment (PIP) payments, but it is considering changes to the benefit system. In fact, PIP rates increased by 6.7% on April 8, 2024, to a range of £28.70–£184.30 per week.


However, the government is considering changes to the PIP system, including: Eligibility criteria, Assessments, Moving away from cash payments, and Replacing cash payments with vouchers and grants.

But anyone who has had the misfortune to have to go through the PiP process of degrading/dehumanisng application assessment, inevitable (privately incentivised) rejection, appeal and tribunal court would concur that they had been needlessly terrorised.

 

[Sasaferrato]

ddraig Nothing to say about your dishonesty?

 

[ddraig]

ddraig Nothing to say about your dishonesty?

ok pick another "cut" that created "terror"
I did just pluck it out of the air without checking so yes my bad, not dishonesty
Aaaand at least I own up to mistakes unlike a lot, especially cunts

 

[cupid_stunt]

Can we not continue this derail, on this important thread?

 

[planetgeli]

Can we not continue this derail, on this important thread?

Hold on one sec, this

Like the venal scum of a PM accepting £10k in gifts from his lover.

Do tell.

 

[cesare]

Hold on one sec, this


Do tell.

Yep which PM?

 

[Pickman's model]

Like the venal scum of Labour increasing bus fares and raising income tax take by freezing personal allowances, a lie on their part.

Like the venal scum of a PM accepting £10k in gifts from his lover.

Like the venal scum of Labour employing (now gone) an MPs wife as Chief of Staff.

Like the venal scum of Labour appointing the Chancellor's sister as Minister Without Portfolio on a £130k salary.

I could go on...

You often do

 

[souljacker]

Like the venal scum of Labour increasing bus fares and raising income tax take by freezing personal allowances, a lie on their part.

Like the venal scum of a PM accepting £10k in gifts from his lover.

Like the venal scum of Labour employing (now gone) an MPs wife as Chief of Staff.

Like the venal scum of Labour appointing the Chancellor's sister as Minister Without Portfolio on a £130k salary.

I could go on...

Speaking of dishonesty...

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

What do you think motivates 'ordinary' mass murder?

The anarchist cookbook is an obvious cia plant. Full of useless half baked information. But they will use it to string you up on terrorism charges.
I had a physical copy once. Shredded once I realized exactly what it is.
Jeffrey, the man that sold it to me. Tried getting his boner on the moon.

 

[souljacker]

The anarchist cookbook is an obvious cia plant. Full of useless half baked information. But they will use it to string you up on terrorism charges.
I had a physical copy once. Shredded once I realized exactly what it is.
Jeffrey, the man that sold it to me. Tried getting his boner on the moon.

You could buy it in Waterstones back in the 90s

 

[planetgeli]

Jeffrey, the man that sold it to me. Tried getting his boner on the moon.

This too needs explaining.

 

[cupid_stunt]

You could buy it in Waterstones back in the 90s

You still can on Amazon.

 

[InArduisFouette]

never said you had ..

but be wary of rabbit holes fella

Exactly

I expect the defence will be a combination of creating doubt about whether the defendent had the mens rea for murder ( Manslaughter diminished responsibility), and if it is determined that he did that the defence will pivot painting him as a some kind of Walter Mitty figure deserving of pity etc etc etc.

if people think that Life in a secure Hospital is cushy they would be well advised to watch some othe documentaries . read some the writing about Rampton / Broadmoor / Ashworth /Carstairs

 

[Spymaster]

You still can on Amazon.

That's not the Anarchist Cookbook.

Read the sample. It's a political work by some Indian dude.

 

[Sasaferrato]

ok pick another "cut" that created "terror"
I did just pluck it out of the air without checking so yes my bad, not dishonesty
Aaaand at least I own up to mistakes unlike a lot, especially cunts

Thank you for your honesty.

 

[planetgeli]

Yep which PM?

Knowing Sass he means Ramsay MacDonald.

C'mon Sasaferrato spill the beans on Starmer's lover. Or Ramsay's.

 

[PTK]

Any act which produces terror is terrorism.

No it is not.
You can re-define any word in any way you choose, but it hinders communication to do so.

 

[kenny g]

You could buy it in Waterstones back in the 90s

You can download that Al Qaeda manual he is charged with being in possession of a PDF of, in translated and annotated form, from a US government website. Same edition available in the UK from blackstones online.
I can see as an 18 year old killer it would be difficult for him to prove a legal justification for possession but it does seem a bit bizarre and unnecessary to throw it in the charge mix unless they think it will add context to the ricin charge.

Back in 2003 there was a Ricin trial that collapsed https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ricin-Inside-Story-Terror-Never/dp/0745329284

 

[gentlegreen]

22 seeds involved there ... perhaps two generous packets.
In a future garden where I have the space I may well end up harvesting and storing a lot more than that.

Another important element is that Rudakubana has not been charged with possessing a terror training manual. Rather, the pdf allegedly found on his computer was more akin to an academic study, titled “Military Studies in the Jihad Against the Tyrants: The Al-Qaeda Training Manual”. (

Reality check: why has Southport attack not been declared a terrorist incident?

New charges against suspect have prompted questions over a possible cover-up and put spotlight on contempt laws

www.theguardian.com

 

[Lotte]

I'd say any attack specifically targeting women and/or girls is terrorism. Marc Lepine was a terrorist.

 

[Pickman's model]

Knowing Sass he means Ramsay MacDonald.

C'mon Sasaferrato spill the beans on Starmer's lover. Or Ramsay's.

More likely lord north

 

[brogdale]

Has Sasaferrato been listening to the rumours from the right-wing pond life on his army-barmy sites again?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Like the venal scum of Labour increasing bus fares and raising income tax take by freezing personal allowances, a lie on their part.

Like the venal scum of a PM accepting £10k in gifts from his lover.

Like the venal scum of Labour employing (now gone) an MPs wife as Chief of Staff.

Like the venal scum of Labour appointing the Chancellor's sister as Minister Without Portfolio on a £130k salary.

I could go on...

While I'd agree about the labour=scum part, it was your tory chums who put in the personal allowance freeze.

 

[Lotte]

The venal scum also weren't in power for the last 14 years.

 

[Pickman's model]

The venal scum also weren't in power for the last 14 years.

They've been in power across the country, hackney, haringey, and so on. And venal with it.