Urban75's north - south divide: definitive statistics

[AnnO'Neemus]

Hold on!

Teacakes are the same as bread rolls?

That's bollocks isn't it?

Yes. Teacakes have currants/sultanas in them and are usually served sliced in two then toasted then slathered in butter.

 

[HeAthen]

Yes. Teacakes have currants/sultanas in them and are usually served sliced in two then toasted then slathered in butter.

Not in East Lancashire, or bits of West Yorkshire and Cumbria they don't.

 

[HeAthen]

Funny how all the baps and cobs and barms are sandwiched between two rolls.

They've missed out Breadcakes.

 

[brogdale]

My guess is that urban75 is overwhelmingly populated by people that live in the south of the UK but let's see.

The line is determined by a latitude midway between the northernmost and southernmost points on the mainland of Great Britain and I expect some people (living in the southern region) are going to get upset by this but before you start complaining, consider that I could have included the Shetland isles if I'd wanted, ok?

tbf to teuchter this thread has been quite a laugh for this 'news-desert' period, but it has to be said...the whole basis of the OP is completely absurd. Aside from the state's attempt to consolidate notions of nationhood, after the acts of Union, describing the parts of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as Northern Britain, Southern Britain and Western Britain has, rightly fallen out of use except when unionists have sought to annoy nationalists.



In all the constituent nations of the unitary state the populations tend to have firm, if varying, ideas about what constitutes the North, South, East and West of their respective countries and it never has any basis in arbitrary lines of latitude. It is, of course ridiculous for English people to call those who live in Yorkshire Southerners, as it would be for Scots to call those in the Borders Northerners.

Thread fail and poll fail.

 

[andysays]

tbf to teuchter this thread has been quite a laugh for this 'news-desert' period, but it has to be said...the whole basis of the OP is completely absurd. Aside from the state's attempt to consolidate notions of nationhood, after the acts of Union, describing the parts of Great Britain and Northern Ireland as Northern Britain, Southern Britain and Western Britain has, rightly fallen out of use except when unionists have sought to annoy nationalists.

In all the constituent nations of the unitary state the populations tend to have firm, if varying, ideas about what constitutes the North, South, East and West of their respective countries and it never has any basis in arbitrary lines of latitude. It is, of course ridiculous for English people to call those who live in Yorkshire Southerners, as it would be for Scots to call those in the Borders Northerners.

Thread fail and poll fail.

 

[teuchter]

I can see how the proposal that we look at the whole of the island(s) we live on, when considering degrees of northerliness, is inevitably challenging for those who are very attached to national borders.

Especially when they consider their "own" nation somehow special or superior.

 

[brogdale]

I can see how the proposal that we look at the whole of the island(s) we live on, when considering degrees of northerliness, is inevitably challenging for those who are very attached to national borders.

Especially when they consider their "own" nation somehow special or superior.

Like it or not, the constituent nations of the UK are cultural entities and realities; far more so that the state imposed unitary authority created by unions.

 

[JimW]

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[JimW]

Who among us has not paffed letters with an earl?

 

[A380]

Who among us has not paffed letters with an earl?

I only paffe with Dukes, No riff raff.

 

[andysays]

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Interesting that's published in Dublin.

I thought that would have been more West Briton...

 

[JimW]

Interesting that's published in Dublin.

I thought that would have been more West Briton...

Light the blue touch paper!

Wilkes ended up in exile for a while over the scandal that the duel mentioned on the cover was about, not sure if it was easier to get stuff printed on the colonial periphery.

 

[weepiper]

The Balmoral Hotel by Waverley Station in Edinburgh was known as the North British Hotel from its opening by the North British Railway Company until the 90s. Old people still call it that, or the N.B.

 

[teuchter]

Like it or not, the constituent nations of the UK are cultural entities and realities; far more so that the state imposed unitary authority created by unions.

Yeah, if you fully buy into this idea of them being ultra significant "cultural entities" then it will be disturbing to you if someone suggests that a physically existing coastline and ocean is just as "real".

 

[PTK]

If we define a nation as an historically-evolved group of people sharing a common territory, language, and culture, then perhaps England and Scotland are not distinct nations.

 

[teuchter]

If we define a nation as an historically-evolved group of people sharing a common territory, language, and culture, then perhaps England and Scotland are not distinct nations.

The distinction between england & scotland is entirely created by the formation of various institutions and structures by the ruling classes over the years. Disappointing that many are happy to unthinkingly reinforce this. Every person in the southern part of the British isles who refuses to accept that geographical reality, instead insisting that they are a "northerner" based on the rules that the aristocracy have told them to play by, needs to engage in some reflection.

 

[brogdale]

Yeah, if you fully buy into this idea of them being ultra significant "cultural entities" then it will be disturbing to you if someone suggests that a physically existing coastline and ocean is just as "real".

Which might carry some weight as an argument had you not titled the thread with a question relating to where posters live within the UK, which is, of course, also a cultural entity, "ultra significant" or otherwise. You then posited a hypothesis suggesting that "urban75 is overwhelmingly populated by people that live in the south of the UK".

FWIW, I'm well aware that the island of Great Britain, a constituent element of the UK, has a "real", "physically existing coastline", though I'm not aware of any similarly named ocean.

Thread fail; poll fail.

 

[Saul Goodman]

The distinction between england & scotland is entirely created by the formation of various institutions and structures by the ruling classes over the years.

Although it is quite humorous that you bow to the same king as the people who visit Buckingham palace and buy tat emblazoned with the union flag.

 

[Pickman's model]

Although it is quite humorous that you bow to the same king as the people who visit Buckingham palace and buy tat emblazoned with the union flag.

He doesn't bow, he kowtows

 

[A380]

If we define a nation as an historically-evolved group of people sharing a common territory, language, and culture, then perhaps England and Scotland are not distinct nations.

That’s how Putin started with Ukraine…

 

[A380]

Yeah, if you fully buy into this idea of them being ultra significant "cultural entities" then it will be disturbing to you if someone suggests that a physically existing coastline and ocean is just as "real".

Well, if you don’t consider national states to be ‘significant’ cultural entities what would you consider significant?

This is going to be like your bizarre, and well known, belief that women don’t have elbows again isn’t it?

 

[A380]

The distinction between england & scotland is entirely created by the formation of various institutions and structures by the ruling classes over the years. Disappointing that many are happy to unthinkingly reinforce this. Every person in the southern part of the British isles who refuses to accept that geographical reality, instead insisting that they are a "northerner" based on the rules that the aristocracy have told them to play by, needs to engage in some reflection.

Hey danny la rouge , teuchter thinks you are basically English. Do you agree?

 

[A380]

Although it is quite humorous that you bow to the same king as the people who visit Buckingham palace and buy tat emblazoned with the union flag.

Urban’s lack of empathy for ordinary people buying royalist tat…

 

[teuchter]

Which might carry some weight as an argument had you not titled the thread with a question relating to where posters live within the UK, which is, of course, also a cultural entity, "ultra significant" or otherwise. You then posited a hypothesis suggesting that "urban75 is overwhelmingly populated by people that live in the south of the UK".

Interesting, so had I chosen to write "great britain" or "the british isles" instead of "the uk" you would basically agree with me.

 

[A380]

Interesting, so had I chosen to write "great britain" or "the british isles" instead of "the uk" you would basically agree with me.

And yet you did not so choose. Just another example of your slapdash approach to thread creation that we have all come to know.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Interesting, so had I chosen to write "great britain" or "the british isles" instead of "the uk" you would basically agree with me.

Had my aunt had balls...

 

[iona]

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SEE danny la rouge it's them Shetland folk what get kept in the box

 

[danny la rouge]

SEE danny la rouge it's them Shetland folk what get kept in the box

With the murder rate from the TV show they’ll soon aa be died.

 

[iona]

With the murder rate from the TV show they’ll soon aa be died.

We'll no ken unless we open the box but

 

[iona]

Oh wait that's cats