Urban75's north - south divide: definitive statistics

[Puddy_Tat]

I think @Gromit could tell us they probably have a system to prevent that

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Hey I got a little problem, I'm wondering about the safety hoops that are installed so the district trains don't go into pic tunnels. Do these ho

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[danny la rouge]

Is the clockwork orange a tube? And does anyone actually call it the clockwork orange?

Nobody calls it the Clockwork Orange. That’s just something newspapers like to write every so often. Locals call it the Subway. Is it a tube? It’s two concentric circular tunnels. So, to the extent that a tunnel is a tube, I suppose so.

Having got started early - it’s the second oldest metro system in the world - it quickly stalled, and none of the planned extensions to the system were ever built. More’s the pity. I’d like to see it expanded. I’d like to see the M8 through the city removed and replaced with parks and gardens, and housing. And I’d like actual commitment to 20 minute neighbourhoods really being implemented, rather than just pretending it’s happening.

Keep it light, right. Em, squirrels are posh little pricks aren’t they?

 

[xenon]

Has anyone here done square sausage in the air fryer?

No. But I will next time I find some. I am a square sausage fan. I am a sausage square fan I don’t know which way is it now.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Has anyone here done square sausage in the air fryer?

No I always do mine in the heat freezer.

 

[Gromit]

And how many times has that happened in the history of London’s mass transit system? None, none, that’s how many. I think Gromit could tell us they probably have a system to prevent that; possibly a post it note stuck on the windscreen saying reminding the driver not to drive down tunnels smaller than the train.

A better example (just because I know the details) is district line trains. They could take the wrong signal and go to Heathrow (Ive seen this) or Uxbridge. In both instances there are tubes filled with Mercury suspended above the track long before a train reaches a tunnel.

High roofed S stock will break the tubes throwing a signal to Red. Pic trains easily go under them. Passing a Red will trip a train and stop it.

In the case of Hanger Lane junction there is also an axle counter so that the longer S stock won't get a signal to Uxbridge. This however does not stop Pic line trains from accidentally ending up in Ealing Broadway if given a wrong signal. I have received such a signal and did not accept it and avoided getting into trouble.

 

[danny la rouge]

No I always do mine in the heat freezer.

So, I know you’re upset about the term, but, like the inaccurate “vacuum cleaner”, it’s here to stay. And there is blowing and there is oil. So, you know, cooking in oil happens.

 

[Gromit]

Surface stock detector

 

[andysays]

A better example (just because I know the details) is district line trains. They could take the wrong signal and go to Heathrow (Ive seen this) or Uxbridge. In both instances there are tubes filled with Mercury suspended above the track long before a train reaches a tunnel.

High roofed S stock will break the tubes throwing a signal to Red. Pic trains easily go under them. Passing a Red will trip a train and stop it.

In the case of Hanger Lane junction there is also an axle counter so that the longer S stock won't get a signal to Uxbridge. This however does not stop Pic line trains from accidentally ending up in Ealing Broadway if given a wrong signal. I have received such a signal and did not accept it and avoided getting into trouble.

Glad to see someone still cares.

 

[krink]

As I suspected.

Also, I would love to live in London.

 

[SpookyFrank]

but, like the inaccurate “vacuum cleaner”, it’s here to stay.

The reason it's inaccurate is because it's called a 'hoover' not a vacuum cleaner'.

 

[danny la rouge]

The reason it's inaccurate is because it's called a 'hoover' not a vacuum cleaner'.

Potato, potato.

 

[teuchter]

I don’t know why people are taking issue with teuchter ’s division of the largest island of these islands at its halfway point. Surely that is correct.

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We know exactly why people are taking issue with it, of course.

And it's the same reason that so many posts on a thread discussing a real issue, located in the UK politics forum, are written by southerners discussing parochial southern matters instead of engaging with the "stupid premise" that there might be anything north of Kendal that is worthy of their attention.

You could perhaps coin the term "southsplaining".

 

[existentialist]

We know exactly why people are taking issue with it, of course.

And it's the same reason that so many posts on a thread discussing a real issue, located in the UK politics forum, are written by southerners discussing parochial southern matters instead of engaging with the "stupid premise" that there might be anything north of Kendal that is worthy of their attention.

You could perhaps coin the term "southsplaining".

No, really, we couldn't.

Because You Just Did

 

[Humberto]

So is Wales in the south or not?

 

[SpookyFrank]

So is Wales in the south or not?

Technically Wales is everything North West of a line teuchter drew between Chipping Sodbury and Tierra del Fuego, assuming ideal Euclidean topology as derived from the Hobo-Dyer projection.

Anyone who objects to this is some kind of weirdo.

 

[teuchter]

So is Wales in the south or not?

danny la rouge kindly prepared a map to make the answer very accessible.

 

[Rob Ray]

And it's the same reason that so many posts on a thread discussing a real issue, located in the UK politics forum, are written by southerners discussing parochial southern matters instead of engaging with the "stupid premise" that there might be anything north of Kendal that is worthy of their attention.

Says the fellow who forgot two compass points. That's half of the compass points!

 

[Humberto]

Essex and Aberystwyth, same region. Got it now.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Says the fellow who forgot two compass points. That's half of the compass points!

This is a man who seeks to proclaim geographical absolutes while not knowing latitude from longitude, nor the United Kingdom from Great Britain.

I'd wager he'd stand no better than a 50% chance of making it from his own front door to the nearest bus stop without somehow ending up in the wrong country, probably missing a kidney.

 

[WouldBe]

So the District line isn't a tube line either?

Is that the Lake District line.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Is that the Lake District line.

No, the Lake District Line is the line midway between the 37th parallel and the 84th elliptical which separates Denmark from Narnia. Except on Wednesdays, when it's the other way round.

 

[WouldBe]

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Tubes of mercury.

Not very environmentally friendly.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Tubes of mercury.

Not very environmentally friendly.

Neither is a train crash to be fair.

Presumably the mercury is there so you can have something that's both brittle and conductive, namely liquid metal inside a glass tube. Most conductive things are metal and metals aren't generally brittle.

Only other thing you could use for this kind of mechanical circuit breaker would be graphite, but you'd never be able to make a thin enough piece of graphite into a U shape like that.

 

[petee]

High roofed S stock will break the tubes throwing a signal to Red. Pic trains easily go under them.

I'm unclear on this bit. How does breaking these tubes throw a signal?

 

[Elpenor]

Tubes of mercury.

Not very environmentally friendly.

One of those link says it’s not a tube of mercury anymore, some other sort of method used which still triggers a signal

 

[Saul Goodman]

Tubes of mercury.

Not very environmentally friendly.

I doubt they'd be mercury these days. It would have made sense when everything was high amperage electrics but unless modern electronics have somehow bypassed the rail system, there would be no need for tubes of mercury to do this job. But it's the rail system, that likes living in the past, so who knows.

 

[Flavour]

you lot all sick of your families and back online again then, to make 12 pages of this typical teuchter nonsense thread in short order.

 

[Saul Goodman]

I'm unclear on this bit. How does breaking these tubes throw a signal?

The mercury in the tubes would be making the circuit between two electrodes submerged in it. No mercury, no continuity.

 

[Gromit]

I'm unclear on this bit. How does breaking these tubes throw a signal?

The Mercury carries an electric current to magnetise or demag the stick (a railway term I CBA to explain). To be honest I don't know which it does.

As someone else stated it's unlikely they use actual mercury now. I'm guessing a conductive gel which drains out or summat... but it's not my area of expertise and drivers just think of it as mercury still. If it has never been broken I wouldn't be at all surprised if it still had mercury until it has been.

 

[cyberfairy]

I refuse to be southern when 15 minutes away from Kendal