Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[bimble]

I think this may be somewhat out of date. On sanctions and sanctuary (without debating the desirability of the former, but it's clearly what the Ukrainians want) we're slow.

It seems to be the same story here (Ukrainians like the UK and Johnson).



Could have something to do with bbc news being listened to idk.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Surely the safest thing would be not to have such a button? Putting "Do Not Press This Button" on a button seems a bit too much tempting fate. I know I would get an uncontrollable itch to press it as soon as I spotted it.

Do not press the big red button!

 

[two sheds]

On a tangental note, because my A level politics teacher was seeing one of Benn's team we all got taken off to see PMQs (I got a seat seemingly directly above Kinnoch's shining pate), and there was a row of buttons in front of me. The HOC person said to me 'don't touch them! you. must. not. touch. them.', so obviously the first thing I did was lean on them in my desire to get a better view, and fessed up to which he said 'did anything happen? no? don't it again tho'. I'd quite like to know what those buttons were supposed to do.

You probably helped vote the poll tax in

 

[MickiQ]

Do not press the big red button!

Literally the first thing I did was click on it

 

[Mr Moose]

But surely that button would only work if the power was on.

It’s a very special button.

 

[Numbers]

Literally the first thing I did was click on it

Ditto, + was going to post up the error I receive

 

[cupid_stunt]

Literally the first thing I did was click on it

I've repaired the link, but don't try it! Do not press the big red button!

 

[MickiQ]

I've repaired the link, but don't try it!

Then stop fucking tempting me with your forbidden buttons have you no shame !!

 

[ohmyliver]

You probably helped vote the poll tax in

Do I look like a butterfly?

 

[ohmyliver]

They were a test to see if you could follow simple instructions clearly you failed.

meh, I got diagnosed with ADHD about 5 years ago. interest>simple instructions.

 

[_Russ_]

I'm not sure that F-16s in the air is that unusual - pretty much most of the US air assets we see over the Far West of Wales on exercises are F-16s, for example.

Bravo on being consistant with your leg humping, but at least try to stick to subjects you have at least a faint fucking clue about, its F15s that are regulars, the F16s are a rarity

 

[Supine]

Could have something to do with bbc news being listened to idk.

Speaking English is probably the biggest advantage Johnson has

 

[teqniq]

Another war crime right there. Is it too much to hope that they will be held to account for it this time?

 

[two sheds]

Speaking English is probably the biggest advantage Johnson has

that and that he's an inveterate liar so promises all sorts of shit that he doesn't deliver.

 

[Pickman's model]

Speaking English is probably the biggest advantage Johnson has

He does give it a good go

 

[Pickman's model]

Psychological warfare. It's devastatingly dispiriting. It's why they do it.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're looking to produce some sort of response like an attack on a hospital in Russia that they can seize on and say 'terrorists!', which at a stroke would ease several of Putin's problems

 

[emanymton]

It seems to be the same story here (Ukrainians like the UK and Johnson).



Could have something to do with bbc news being listened to idk.

Quite a disconnect between feelings towards NATO and feelings towards NATO countries.

Also who the fuck very favorable towards Putin?

 

[Dogsauce]

Another war crime right there. Is it too much to hope that they will be held to account for it this time?

That chubby pilot they captured the other day was a veteran of Syrian bombing campaigns, shame they looked relatively unscathed after capture.

I mean how the fuck does anyone justify this? How do you follow that ‘hi honey what did you get up to at work today?’ with ‘oh not much, bombed a maternity hospital’. Zero fucking humanity.

 

[existentialist]

Bravo on being consistant with your leg humping, but at least try to stick to subjects you have at least a faint fucking clue about, its F15s that are regulars, the F16s are a rarity

"Leg humping"

I don't know what you're on, but perhaps you'd care to wind your fucking neck in now, rather than wait for it to be wound in for you?

 

[Dogsauce]

& we already know that if news gets through to Russia it’ll be passed off as a false flag or deliberate attack by the home side. And cunts will believe them.

 

[existentialist]

I wouldn't be surprised if they're looking to produce some sort of response like an attack on a hospital in Russia that they can seize on and say 'terrorists!', which at a stroke would ease several of Putin's problems

I saw "stroke" and "Putin" in the same sentence, and hoped for the best. If that makes me a bad person, I don't care

 

[bimble]

Interesting idea, Russian speakers abroad should call random Russian people’s phones & talk to them about the war. I don’t know what kind of reactions you’d get, fear quite often I imagine.

UK volunteers urged to cold call Russia to counter Putin’s propaganda

Russian speakers encouraged to phone ordinary citizens in initiative to change Putin’s narrative one conversation at a time

www.theguardian.com

 

[planetgeli]

Anyone else hear the Russian commentator (don't know if journalist or party hack?) on the Today programme (roughly 7.55-8.00am) this morning? Je-sus-Christ. Has to be heard to be believed.

"Russians don't bomb civilians. I have evidence"

"What's your evidence?"

"I just know"

etc. Mildly interesting view into how to twist someone's mind through propaganda (or threats).

Today - 09/03/2022 - BBC Sounds

News and current affairs, including Sports Desk, Weather and Thought for the Day.

www.bbc.co.uk

As I say, roughly 1h 55m in.

 

[dilute micro]

Interesting idea, Russian speakers abroad should call random Russian people’s phones & talk to them about the war. I don’t know what kind of reactions you’d get, fear quite often I imagine.

UK volunteers urged to cold call Russia to counter Putin’s propaganda

Russian speakers encouraged to phone ordinary citizens in initiative to change Putin’s narrative one conversation at a time

www.theguardian.com

Yep, "hey I got the FSK on the phone trying to trick me into saying I'm against the special military operation".

 

[Raheem]

Yep, "hey I got the FSK on the phone trying to trick me into saying I'm against the wa .... shit, fuck, fuck!".

C4u

 

[Plumdaff]

On a tangental note, because my A level politics teacher was seeing one of Benn's team we all got taken off to see PMQs (I got a seat seemingly directly above Kinnoch's shining pate), and there was a row of buttons in front of me. The HOC person said to me 'don't touch them! you. must. not. touch. them.', so obviously the first thing I did was lean on them in my desire to get a better view, and fessed up to which he said 'did anything happen? no? don't it again tho'. I'd quite like to know what those buttons were supposed to do.

Ejector seat for the Speaker.

 

[bluescreen]

Pretty crazy interview on World at One today with Natalya Narochnitskaya in Moscow. Sarah Montague gets off to a bad start with the wrong description of her guest, who then goes off on one. Ukraine is the aggressor of course, attacking Russian speakers in Donbas etc etc. Interview starts at around 28.20 minutes in.

World at One - 09/03/2022 - BBC Sounds

Forty-five minutes of news, analysis and comment, with Sarah Montague

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[agricola]

Interesting idea, Russian speakers abroad should call random Russian people’s phones & talk to them about the war. I don’t know what kind of reactions you’d get, fear quite often I imagine.

UK volunteers urged to cold call Russia to counter Putin’s propaganda

Russian speakers encouraged to phone ordinary citizens in initiative to change Putin’s narrative one conversation at a time

www.theguardian.com

Isn't that what the Guardian proposed in 2004? That time it was suggesting people phone up ordinary Yanks and tell them Kerry was better than Bush.

 

[existentialist]

Wouldn't it be a shame if Poland were to have left a bunch of MiG-29s around all fuelled up, with the keys in, and some evil thieving Ukrainian pilots were to mount an operation to go and steal them? Obviously, Poland would have to be outraged, and demand the return of their planes, but what's an airforce to do?

 

[frogwoman]

Interesting idea, Russian speakers abroad should call random Russian people’s phones & talk to them about the war. I don’t know what kind of reactions you’d get, fear quite often I imagine.

UK volunteers urged to cold call Russia to counter Putin’s propaganda

Russian speakers encouraged to phone ordinary citizens in initiative to change Putin’s narrative one conversation at a time

www.theguardian.com

This is a nice idea but I don't think random Russians would necessarily be willing to give their views to total strangers? Could also see the potential for abuse.

When I lived in Russia I went on tinder one time and swiped right on someone who turned out to be a Syrian rights activist in the states who was contacting Russians by dating apps and telling them about what Putin was doing. I thought that was a great idea, I don't know if Tinder is part of the sanctions though.